Nextcloud 📱☁️💻Apr 22

Euro-Office is gaining momentum. 🚀 Discover:

• Security & performance improvements
• Growing community contributions
• New members joining: Open-Xchange & Office.EU

Up next: Public roadmap and full ODF support!

See #opensource in action and join the movement!👇
https://nextcloud.com/blog/euro-office-building-momentum/

Show threadChaP

@nextcloud

Ich verstehe die Entscheidung für OnlyOffice als Basis für das Euro-Office nicht. Folgendes fällt mir dazu ein:
- Die russische Herkunft und Verbundenheit
- Zusatzbedingungen zur APGL = verkrüppelte Open Source
- Das ODF Dateiformat wird nicht nativ unterstützt und das von OnlyOffice exportierte ODF Format ist nicht vollständig kompatibel. ODF ist in der öffentlichen Verwaltung jedoch verbindlicher Standard

Was führte zur OnlyOffice Entscheidung ?

#eurooffice #deutschlandstack

Apr 22 at 7:52pmWeb
Show threadChaPApr 22

@nextcloud

I don't understand the decision to use OnlyOffice as the basis for Euro-Office. Here are my thoughts:

- Its Russian origin and ties

- Additional conditions to the APGL = crippled open source

- The ODF file format is not natively supported, and the ODF format exported by OnlyOffice is not fully compatible. However, ODF is a mandatory standard in public administration.

What led to the OnlyOffice decision?

(Google Translation)

Show threadCleroApr 22
@ChaP @nextcloud
I just read their latest blog post, and they are working toward full ODF format support. They are also cleaning the code base to translate Russian code comments in English and to "clean up and refactor code that has outdated dependencies or binary blobs". As for choosing OnlyOffice instead of LibreOffice (or Collabora) as a base, I guess it’s because OnlyOffice looks more modern (more like MS office) and may make it easier to convert users from MS Office.
Show threadCleroApr 22
@ChaP @nextcloud
As for the license, the added rule in the OnlyOffice license which blocked users from forking the project has been removed in Euro-Office and it is backed by Nextcloud which is itself truly opensource. (https://isitreallyfoss.com/projects/nextcloud/)
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Show threadNextcloud 📱☁️💻Apr 23

@ChaP hey there!

1. What matters is it's open source software. The Euro-Office team is working on the code to make sure it's a reliable and transparent product. You can read about the current state of things and what's next in the article.

2. The licensing question is explained in detail here: https://nextcloud.com/blog/euro-office-license-compliance-and-what-open-source-means/

3. ODF compatibility is something we are currently working on, as mentioned in the article as well.

So @clero you are right in your findings, thanks!

Euro-Office: License compliance and what open source means - Nextcloud

Euro-Office reviewed the terms in the ONLYOFFICE codebase and found contradictions. We explain the legal basis, what we removed, and why.

Nextcloud
Show threadChaPApr 23

@nextcloud @clero

Thank you for the answer and the detailed explanation.

Show threadNeal Gompa (ニール・ゴンパ) Apr 24
@nextcloud @ChaP @clero Couldn't you have come up with a better name than "Euro-Office"? I know ONLYOFFICE wasn't a great name either, but... competing for terrible product names isn't a competition worth winning... 😅
Show threadLiv PinkApr 24
@neal @nextcloud @ChaP @clero Continental Office? 😛
Show threadCleroApr 24
@neal @nextcloud @ChaP There are already LibreOffice, OnlyOffice and Microsoft Office, so I don't know how they could have found something better than Euro-Office. There's also Google Docs and Proton Docs so Maybe "Euro docs" but it's definitively not better 😅.