Well this is truly bad. US national level OS-level age verification bill. https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/8250/all-info

The text of it isn't out yet.

EDIT: Well the text is now out and it's as bad as you could imagine. It's not even just that you need to verify your age to access a website... operating systems must verify your age to let you *use a computer at all*

EDIT EDIT: Thanks to @Andres4NY for pointing out that it also holds responsible anyone who has any software shipped on the operating system of a computer, meaning FOSS developers eveywhere

We don't know who's funding this stuff for sure, there was the vibecoded analysis that came to the conclusion of Meta, but I suspect that could be true but Meta wouldn't be alone.

Who stands to benefit from this? A lot of forces of centralization, and anti-LGBTQ orgs:

- Microsoft, for sure, since they are seeing Windows' dominance threatened?
- Apple, for similar reasons?
- Peter Theil and similar surveillance company owners and operators?
- Anti-queer orgs and think tanks like the Heritage Foundation?
- Cloudflare, who will probably run the age verification paywalls everyone will be forced to deploy?

Who's behind this? Who's getting politicians so excited about it? There's such a swell of bipartisan support seemingly out of nowhere, and my suspicion is a lot of that enthusiasm is coming from check-writing.

So who's behind it?

@cwebber agreed about who would benefit from this.* I'd also add data broker companies (who are big players in age verification), and law enforcement/intelligence agencies/authoritarians (both because of the surveillance aspects and because the logical next step after age verificaiton is to ban VPNs). So it'd certainly be interesting to follow the money.

That said the bipartisan support for this isn't coming out of nowhere, it's been building over multiple years. And at least here in Washington state (where we managed to stop three different age verification bills this last session, incuding one that our Democratic Attorney General Nick Brown was pushing very heavily) I don't think the enthusiasm comes primarily from check-writing.

Legislators are under a huge amount of pressure to do something to protect kids and teens online. A Pew Research survey a couple of years ago reported that nearly half of teens online have been bullied or harassed -- and that most teens don't think tech companies or the government are doing enough about it. Meta is clearly knowingly exploiting teens and hasn't been held accountable under existing law. Testimony at hearings from parents whose kids have committed suicide -- and survivors who have been groomed and exploited -- is searing.

So legislators feel like they need to do something. But what? Advocates for age verification are very good at convincing people that it will help -- and at minimizing the harms that it will cause. After all, it's just like checking an ID at a liquor store!!!! And the results from the Online Safety Act in the UK and Australia's social media ban are great, none of the harms have the nay-sayers claimed have happened!!!!! Of course neither of those are true, but it's hard for legislators (or parents for that matter) who don't deeply understand the technology to understand that.**

And the most obvious harms are to LGBTQIAS+ teens, which most legislators don't particularly (a) relate to emotionally, (b) understand intellctually, or (c) care about. Of course those aren't the only harms; as 90 organizations dedicated to LGBTQ+ rights, abortion access, rights for youth, privacy, and freedom of speech say

"For vulnerable communities, a biometric scan or an ID upload can serve as a huge obstacle, especially for low-income, unhoused, and undocumented people who already have to navigate an increasingly digital world, with less access to tech tools."

And there are also significant accessibility concerns. But guess what, most legislators don't particularly (a) relate to emotionally, (b) understand intellectually, or (c) care about harms to low-income, unhoused, undocumented, or disabled people either.**

Also, big tech is very unpopular these days, and advocates for age verification have done a good job of convincing legislators that this is a way of holding big tech accountable. I know, it doesn't make any sense!!!!!!! But it's certainly been successful, so that's also something that needs to be countered.

How to change the dynamic? In states where LGBTQ+ groups have mobilized effectively, they've almost always been able to get Democrats to oppose age verification for "sexual material harmful to minors" (as far as I know those have only passed in red states). More general age verification bills, though, have been harder to push back on.

Unsurprisingly I have some thoughts here but this post is already long enough, they'll be in the followup.

  • Although with tech companies, it depends on what variety of age verification we're talking about. Microsoft and other big tech companies played a key role in killing an age verification bill here in 2025, and also opposed it in 2026 although it was trans- and queer-led groups who took the lead with a lot of support from progressive activists. On the other hand that wasn't an OS-level age verification bill so Microsoft's incentives were different.

** I and others cited EFF's Why Isn’t Online Age Verification Just Like Showing Your ID In Person? in our testimony and shared it with many legislators, several privacy-friendly Democrats and it didn't change any of their minds. And I couldn't find any reporting of the downsides of the Online Safety Act or Australia's social media ban that would resonate -- anecdotal examples are too easy to explain away as one-offs.

*** We also quoted and cited this in testimony and shared it with legislators and it also didn't change any minds.

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Fight for the Future

Like I said in the previous post, here in Washington state we succeeded in stopping multiple age verification bills this session -- including one supported by the Democratic AG and Democratic House and Senate leadership. Basically we succeeded by

  • convincing a handful of progressive pro-LGBTQIA2S+ legislators that it was a bad idea

  • working with them to convince enough Democratic legislators that the political cost of trying to pass something was too high

  • taking advantage of the political dynamics where the Republicans opposed the AG's bill because they hate the AG and didn't want to give him a political success.

There are challenges in replicating that other states, and it's even harder in Congress, but it's still worth looking at what worked -- and how we can build on it.

  • Trans- and queer-led organizations took the lead, and a lot of trans and queer grassroots activists contacted legislators as well

  • An intersectional network of organizers and grassroots activists (including people from a lot of immigrant-led organizations) got very involved.

  • Indivisibles were also very active (primarily because of the LGBTQ+ aspects)

It's worth highlighting that we did this without a lot of support from well-known organizations. EFF and Fight for the Future were certainly helpful sharing perspectives, and ACLU of Washington opposed the bill, but none of them sent out any action alerts or testified in any hearings on the AG's bill. Instead it was Gender Justice League, Lavender Rights Project, and WA People's Privacy -- and a lot of grassroots activists -- who did the heavy lifting.

As we've seen with KOSA and Elizabeth Warren et al, focusing on the LGBTQIA2S+ aspects isn't enough to persuade even progressive Democrats. So bringing in the immigrant-related aspects and progressive activist organizations (who have a lot of influence with many Democrats these days) is key.

It's not obvious how to scale that nationally. The organizations like Fight for the Future who are attuned to this kind of strategy have a lot of other stuff on their plate (and so little funding), so while they do good work we need to complement them. EFF has more resources but isn't great at advocacy -- even on their home turf in California.

One thing that hasn't been tried yet is an intersectional, multi-platform social media campaign with a focus on education as well as advocacy. There are at least two different aspects where education is needed

  • the harms of age verification

  • how age verification benefits big tech and the surveillance-industrial complex

  • for kids, teens, parents, educators, and other adults about how to be safer online today.

There's a lot to be said for a social media strategy here because the impact falls directly on social media users. And there's certainly a lot of interest, not just here on fedi but also Bluesky, Reddit, and TikTok (which is a hotbed of anti-KOSA acrtivism).

As to just how to make that happen ... unsurprisingly I have some thoughts. But before I go there ... what do people think about general idea of an education-focused multi-platform social media campaign focused on age verification?

@cwebber

#AgeVerification

@jdp23 @cwebber I have an unpopular take on this subject.
I am of the opinion that it is not the governments job to protect children and teens online. I have seen numerous articles centered on parents saying, they changed, they were miserable, they stayed in their room, they were online all the time.
So these folks didn’t even consider changing the WiFi password and taking the phone away.
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@jdp23 @cwebber I am of the opinion that if you don’t want a nanny government you as a parent or guardian have to be vigilant. It is much easier to hand a child a phone than it is to engage them however no one in the entire history of time told anyone that raising children was easy. I know that for many LGBTQ kids their only acceptance comes on social media but even then they are at risk.
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@jdp23 @cwebber there isn’t a good reason not to limit use. Yes they will try to make life miserable for everyone around them however it’s a wonderful chance to explain the difference between a privilege and a right. I would also suggest that, as in the case of my grandson,having a time limit makes them more selective about what they engage with. This eliminates the need for regulation.
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It's not necessarily an unpopular opinion, but it's one that doesn't get a lot of traction with legislators. Parents are saying they want the government to take action; politically, they don't want to tell parents "no, it's your job to fix it".

@CatDragon

@jdp23 @CatDragon Fuck Em.

As a platform provider/web host ... it is NOT the government's job to force ME to change my code (violating MY first amendment rights AND since Citizens United, my Company's first amendment rights) to code my sites the way *I* want them coded.

They're offloading parenting (many) someone else's rugrats on me?!? Fuuuuck you. Not my fucking job and don't pull that "it takes a village" bullshit.

No.

@elfin @jdp23 exactly, it shouldn’t take a village. It takes adults understanding that ‘no’ is a complete sentence.
@elfin @jdp23 @CatDragon "for the kids" is just the excuse. The idea is to build legal requirements for a big brother panopticon.

@metaphase @jdp23 @CatDragon I'm well aware. I do InfoSec and so, not an idiot.

The Two Flags:

Terrorism! : You're about to lose rights disguised as Making Things Safe.

Think Of The Children! : You're about to loose rights disguised as keeping children safe.

Both of these are bald faced lies and we've known thisfor a very long time.

The UK is Amazing at it, the US is jjust catching up. Tho, Australia is pretty fucked up.

@jdp23 @cwebber

I've wondered if a policy that requires successfully completing a training quiz on how to block someone and report sufficiently anti-social behavior to moderators before unlocking chat might be an effective intervention to improve online social spaces.

I certainly think education is key here, and agree that social media would be better if onboarding covered stuff like that in more detail ... but that clashes with people's desire for instant gratification; as a general rule of thumb, every additional screen you add in onboarding leads to a lot of people giving up -- and a mandatory quiz would be an even bigger barrier. So even platforms like Mastodon that aren't trying to exploit their users don't go that route, instead focusing on reducing friction.

@alienghic

@jdp23

Yeah I think it was Roblox efforts at age verification that really led me to think of the idea.

And also, I'm going to keep trying convince people that life is better if people take the time to learn things....

@jdp23 @cwebber @timnitGebru
It’s amazing how they’ll make every citizen more vulnerable online by taking away everyone’s privacy

While not requiring real world medically proven risk reduction by requiring vaccines in schools

So kids are going to the hospital with measles — and we’re all just waiting for the first polio case

But “protect the children”

@jdp23 @cwebber

Thank you for this analysis (and for your work in WA!).

From what you write, it sounds like it might also be helpful to have an alternative proposal that meets the need to *do something* without the harms of age verification.

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@jdp23 @cwebber

What would it look like to hold tech companies accountable for the harms that they do, regardless of the age of the person harmed? What is effective legislation that would be a step towards that?

Yes it would certainly be useful to have an alternative proposal, and that's something advocates (including me) haven't done a great job on. We've talked with several legislators and the Washington AG's office about working on this in the interim but it hasn't happened yet ... hmm maybe we should prioritize it.

(Groups like Fight for the Future and EFF point to strong privacy legislation and anti-trust laws as an alternative. These are certainly good things and would help to some extent but it's a very tough case to make -- the linkage is indirect. And also those are politically extremely challenging, especially in Congress.

And also agree that it's a great question about holding tech companies accountable, regardless of the age. We've also agreed to work on privacy legislation in the interim, and I'm hopeful about building on the progress we made on the "AI" legislation (thanks in part to your very useful feedback on the "AI"-in-healthcare bill) to do something there as well -- in fact once I get through some family stuff over the next few weeks I was planning on reaching out to you and @timnitGebru and a few others to start that process.

(Distressingly, when push came to shove this session on the "AI" chatbot bill, legislators refused to extend the protections for minors against manpultuve engagement techniques to adults as well. Willie Agnew and a couple of other experts had outstanding testimony, the committee listened and seemed to really get it ... but, they didn't change the bill. Oh well, room for progress.)

@emilymbender @cwebber