I applied for a studentship at a famous university, got shortlisted, interviewed and rejected. Three years later, the people who interviewed me started publishing papers describing how they executed my project.

I applied for a post-doc fellowship at a famous university, got shortlisted, interviewed and rejected. Two years later, they are launching a conference exploring the ideas in my proposal.

The worst part is, they don't understand the ideas, so they do a shit job.

#academicChatter

@Talia #seen.

I'm sorry to hear this, it is so infuriating! I absolutely understand the bit about shit execution also...

@adamsteer thanks, appreciate being seen!
@Talia something somewhat similar happened to me as well before. Usually I feel like people don't listen to you carefully, they don't get it, then it's stuck in their brain for a few months, then they are like oh that's a good idea I have there. Like talking to them I felt like they were 99% sure it was their idea, even though it was just a completely "missed the point of the invention, targeting the wrong market with it" etc. kinda copy haha ;)

@madeindex yes, I often have this happen. People don't get it, then later come back to me with the ideas I shared with them, but watered way down and misinterpreted.

It's kind of enlightening to see how uncreative and conformist most of academia is. There are no new insights there, all they can do is desperately go looking for other people's ideas.

@Talia haha yeah it's so sad that it's funny. I also had them come back to me asking me for advice on how to make my own misinterpreted idea better or solve a problem they were facing or help in another way ๐Ÿ˜‹

I used to be upset, but now I don't worry anymore because if you are creative you can Always Always come up with new things, more than you could ever implement anyway I guess ;)

@madeindex totally the last bit. I have way way more ideas than I have time to execute them, much less execute them well.
@Talia @madeindex
Sounds like you have a creative mind! I think there are a lot of people who never have any ideas, and so they don't value them, they don't realise they are valuable somehow.
@huxley @madeindex or they think that ideas are scarce and hard to come by. Or worse, they dislike ideas. I often encounter people whose response to an idea is discomfort and an instant 'no, that won't work because reason I made up'
@Talia this is awful btw - infuriatingly unfair AND sounds like they messed the whole thing up to boot.

@tansy it's all frustrating. I'm very slow at publishing my work, but what has gone out is already setting new directions for fashion sustainability research. People are setting up conferences and new research groups, using my work as a foundation.

Obviously, I cannot get a job :(

@Talia Eugh, so sorry - this just sucks. It's a really depressing and unbalanced academic field - sad to hear your work is being sidelined and misrepresented.
@tansy I try to be happy about the press coverage it gets
@Talia that stance is full of grace!
@tansy that's nice of you to say, when it's probably only partially true ๐Ÿ˜…
@Talia This kind of thing is one reason why I'm not in academia anymore.
@dedicto good move. I'm reconsidering my choices. But I don't want to be in industry either, so...
@Talia Sucks. So sorry. I hope that you can find a way to get your ideas progressed properly.