dmi đź’˝ 17h ago

so when i dislike changes in software i’m “weird” and i should “get on with the times”, but when you don’t wanna do IPv6 because it’s new and scary (TO YOU) it’s suddenly okay?

come on…

Show threaddmi đź’˝ 17h ago

ipv6 isn’t without flaws. but have you SEEN the general software landscape? the things that we put up with on a daily basis?

if we waited with software to be “perfect” as much as we seemingly do with networks, computers would still only be strictly experimental mainframes

Show threaddmi đź’˝
(i’m still convinced that most of this is due to insufficient education on the subject, hoping to - within my lifetime - write at least one book about the general subject that would be a little bit more approachable than the current SEO-enshittified status-quo)
Apr 14 at 8:22amWeb
Show threademilia17h ago
@domi I'd agree with you on this being an educational issue. During my study which was only a few short years ago it was basically only about IPv4. We did get a little bit of theory, but all the practical stuff was IPv4 only, and most of the theoretical stuff was also still very much IPv4 focused.
Show threaddmi đź’˝ 17h ago

@emilia i’ve heard this exact story echoed from others a bunch of times, but. it’s even worse when you’re self-taught.

i’m being told that my style of technical writing is really easy to understand, so I feel like I may be a good pick to work on something better…

Show threadHaelwenn /элвэн/ 17h ago
@domi @emilia Well self-taught depends a lot on social circles so that's a lot harder to assess (like I knew IPv6 nerds pretty early for me), while stuff like classes are somewhat standardized and there's a lot of stuff in there that looks terribly bad and not just networking.
Show threadrewby13h ago
@emilia @domi Where I work we still don't teach people much ipv6 beyond "it exists". Probably not helped by there not being any ipv6 on any campus lan. (Both of these annoy me but I can't change them)
Show threadTrix8h ago
@emilia @domi I feel the need to point at Maria’s (https://maria.jmq.cz/#talks) talk on how things are IPv4-first (documentation, manuals, education): https://www.youtube.com/live/Vc9QiE1CgpE?t=3788
Maria | My personal website

Show threadJana17h ago

@domi
> insufficient education

*looks at purely static ip assignment, overuse of ULA and complete cluelessness on NAT64 at work* yeah…

Show threadLeszek14h ago

@domi It's *checks watch* 2026 and my ISP doesn't support IPv6 to residents, like not even a /64 (a reminder that a /48 is appropriate for a residence, I would get a /32 if I had a big network).

They assigned /127s last time I turned off bridge mode.

Show threadaltf42h ago

@domi Big education problem. Especially with infrastructure that isn't the "cool" thing anymore. Everyone wants to do shiny software these days.

Sadly, a lot of teachers didn't touch operational stuff in the last decade and won't in the next and those are the ones that are training the techies that will touch the infrastructure for the next 20 years... Had to go through that