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eclexic@dcoderlt legitimate question. How often is that push to evict them led by people who were the kids that flocked to it a few years earlier?
Nazo@theeclecticdyslexic @dcoderlt Not often. It really usually is an older generation. Their parents or sometimes even their grandparents. I think more often than not it's the people completely disconnected and out of touch who are the easiest to lead into demanding kids not be allowed to do something. Many don't have kids or they're long since grown up and moved away at least, but when a big stink comes from politicians/etc, they jump on board and agree with whatever they're told that they believe about it.
It's always the people who came into it later, never the ones who grew up with it.
Thanks, I will try to watch for this kind of thing in the future. I think it's an intriguing social problem. Not sure how to improve it, but I can at least try to be cognisant of it in myself. I do feel, if this is accurate, today's kids have it real rough. I wouldn't want to be one.
All of these intergenerational dynamics have sort of had their expected balance of forces slowly change by increased longevity, fewer childhood mortalities, and shrinking birthrates.
As a side note, I think this could be a big part of childhood depression rates rising over the last few generations. (Aside from the obvious feedback loop of the algorithmically tuned and targeted depression rectangles in everyone's pockets).
As more of the world gets locked down and excludes you, there is less ways to imagine making the world your own as a kid.
@theeclecticdyslexic @dcoderlt Each of these things mentioned allows kids ways of communicating with each other, finding commonalities and like-minded people. And, yeah, most generations get to experience watching that get taken away by adults coming in, enshittifying it, and then kicking them out, as the post above describes. Everyone needs that stuff, but people decide they know what's better for them and take it away.
For sure, I follow.
I'm thinking kind of how, especially in car centric parts of the world, kids are not really able to do anything independently. So, online is the obvious choice there, in order to spend time to explore what life is with peers.
Taking that away, in the current circumstances, is tantamount to isolation. I can only hope that the current crises force us to bring in person spaces back more, for everyone's sake.
Fluffy Kitty Cat@nazokiyoubinbou @theeclecticdyslexic @dcoderlt and we know it's on purpose to isolate certain groups, like LGBT kids
zivi@fluffykittycat @nazokiyoubinbou @theeclecticdyslexic @dcoderlt place everyone under 18 in solitary confinement surely thatll uhh protect them
@fluffykittycat @dcoderlt @nazokiyoubinbou @theeclecticdyslexic denying kids community is nothing but evil
@hsza @theeclecticdyslexic @dcoderlt @nazokiyoubinbou we already do it's called a suburban subdivision
@fluffykittycat @theeclecticdyslexic @dcoderlt @nazokiyoubinbou adultists be like how about we do it more and everywhere
@theeclecticdyslexic @nazokiyoubinbou @dcoderlt in my case internet access was all I had and my mental.health would.have been way worse without it
@fluffykittycat @theeclecticdyslexic @dcoderlt I'm relatively certain there is at least one point I very possibly would have committed suicide without access to the Internet when I was young. I can't really point to any one real "the Internet saved me" moment, just that the fact it was there and I could actually find things and people relative to my interests made the difference.