Oh another reason for me to dislike telegram. Sigh.

Can’t people just…communicate? Fucking *express yourself* and *use words*. The “have a machine make thoughts for you” is so damn strange to me.

@keirFox This is where I am thankful Telegram isn't as hostile to third-party clients as Discord and Signal (!) are.

Still, it sucks…

@digitalfox @keirFox Signal is not hostile to third party clients, at least if you don't call them "signal". Check out molly IM, a fully compatible fork of the android app.

@starsider You have a fair point. Hostile might be the wrong word - perhaps "discouraged by policy."

The tune seems to have changed over the years compared to earlier on. Now it looks like it's just "no backwards compatibility." If you're not building from a fork of an existing app (as Molly is), it seems hard for folks to keep pace. Presage as a library seems promising.

That's fair for a security-above-all-else messenger.

I'm just wanting to pull folks across apps into one place on my server, and so many Signal bridge-clients have died. Somehow, despite everything Discord has developed over the past 3 years and third-party clients being against their Terms of Service, they still haven't broken their core chat API.