See, there's a bunch of different ways you can Do Solar, depending on how Into It you wanna get. I'm typically on the raccoon end of the spectrum y'know, scavenge parts and cobble together and try to do it all on the cheap, which would normally rule out the sort of all-in-one inverter/chargecontroller/battery devices that rich folk go for. These are devices where you literally just plug solar panels in, keep your voltage below the max, and it does it all for you with an app, you don't have to know anything.
But. Big part of my use case was, frankly, next time there's a massive storm and half my mates are without power for days at a time and they need their freezer to get cold and their phone to get hot, I wanna be able to chuck a thing in the car, wheel it over, give them a couple cycles and take it back to get charged up in the sun again, and that ain't happening with the sort of screwed-into-a-big-plywood-board system I'd initially been thinking about. Plus I'd saved some money on the actual panels by finding a bloke who's upgrading all his, so the panels I'm getting are gonna be big and old and heavy and blue and not very efficient for their size but very very very cheap.
So. Gulp.
Ecoflow Delta Pro Three
which coincidentally has the same number of words as Two Fucking Grand Christ
I got 8 solar panels today, gonna go back for the others tomorrow.
The panels were in the woods.
Just, like, big piles of them in the woods. Full of rain and leaves and twigs and creatures.
I mean I guess it makes sense and I don't know what I expected, these machines are weatherproof, they're meant to live outside.
Dude wasn't there when I turned up so I got the car ready and had a look around and got my meter on some wires and yup, they work. These mossy dirty sleeping machines in the woods are silently pushing electrons trying to find something to push them through, not asleep after all, just waiting.
I've never handled a solar panel meant for roof mounting before, only those like little portable camping jobs
These things aren't light and I've got stairs in front of my house, had to carry them up balanced on my head
Ready for a little sit down now
Solar update: still waiting for the battery to get here so there's no physical update, but here's minor emotional/noticing update.
1. People (who I know IRL in America and have talked to) generally don't think about kilowatt-hours. When folk look at their electric bill they think of nothing if they're rich and dollars if they're normal and kWh only comes onto the radar if they're having solarpunk thoughts. Nobody knows how much a particular appliance or device uses, people think that a server rack pulls more current than a kettle, this is an entirely normal way to live, the world is full of things and nobody has the spare brain cycles to notice this sort of thing until it comes up. I only notice it because It Came Up. So, a caution to those who might do this, It Will Come Up and then your brain will be filled with It whether you want it or not
2. Having solar panels lying around not hooked into anything is a special sort of liminal airport waiting purgatory because you go ALL THOSE LOVELY PHOTONS ARE JUST HITTING THE DAMN GROUND, look at that smug grass
@ifixcoinops I never thought about kWh before I had solar. After I bought Shelly plugs, things escalated... a little... and now I have Shelly plugs for most of my larger devices, e.g. washing machine, dryer, dishwasher, heat pump, wallbox.
It was definitely a big lesson to actually look at the consumption statistics of my devices.
Before doing that, I had _no_ idea whatsoever about the scale of what devices consume how much compared to what else in my household.
The thing to learn from all of this was where it's actually useful to think about saving energy, e.g. if it's worth to replace an older device with a more efficient new one.
@ifixcoinops It's also fun to directly compare old devices with new ones, if you have a power metering plug like the Shelly plugs.
My very old flat screen TV still runs fine, but it consumes more than 25W in standby. The new one is less than 1W. So yeah, it _was_ worth buying an extension cord with a power button for the guest room where we put the old TV.
The other lesson is also how frickin' efficient LED lights are compared to old light bulbs and halogen spots. It's a surprising sight when you actually watch your power meter statistic go up less after replacing dozens of old lights with LEDs in your house.
@hzulla 25W in standby is wild, that's a whole leg
That's, like, you could run home assistant on a pi and have a $10 smart plug turn that off and on automatically, and the computer that turns the TV all the way off would use less electricity than the TV uses when it's halfway off
@murteza @ifixcoinops Yes, there's a reason the regulations for standby consumption were made more strict over time.
That old flatscreen TV I'm talking about has a "smart" component in it that keeps doing things in the background even when the actual TV appears to be "off". The 25W aren't its constant standby consumption, but it can remain in that useless 25W state for a long time before it finally enters deep sleep at 4W, which is still too much. And worse, the "smart" component hasn't seen updates in more than a decade and if it were connected to the internet, it would probably try to talk to non-existing servers out there.
But to make a long story short,
a) government regulations for standby power consumption have an impact and
b) some modern devices do in fact consume far less power than their old predecessors. Sometimes it IS worth throwing out that old fridge to replace it with a new one. And a power metering plug will help you find out.