My word, I have no idea how anyone achieves anything online independent of huge corporations. I'm working with the new version of a widely used ecomm platform. The underlying code is good (unlike anything running under WP), but so far I've offered a patch for their upgrade tool, identified a less than user-friendly issue with the upgrade process, and found a fairly serious bug, which I worked around with the most horrid kludge: manually adding stuff to the database. Then I patched a theme to fix something I found irksome.

So that's required: GitHub, PHP, PHPUnit, Bootstrap based SCSS with webpack, SQL, Smarty and a few other things.

I'm not exactly a "full stack" developer; I can rock the back end and know just enough to tweak things on the front end, but don't ask me to build something from scratch. Getting this thing going has tapped every single one of those skills.

But what if you're just someone with no development skills who is trying to get a small shop online? This leaves you out in the woods, and subject to paying Shopify (and similar megacorps) stupid money just to get a store that might never sell a damn thing going.

#eCommerce #rant

@alan I may just be ignorant of what's out there, but it sure would be nice if we had community projects for community owned and operated e-commerce.

Maybe it's already a thing and I'm just ignorant of it?

I dunno ... this feels like something that doesn't scale down very well, so the ideal solution would be government run with public funding. Wouldn't that be nice?

@alan I mean ... it's pretty common for governments to get involved in projects to try and revitalize a shopping mall, or down town shopping district. There's a public interest in fostering small businesses there.

Is there not a public interest in fostering small businesses in "online" store fronts, also?

@isaackuo We had a big push for that here, but of course the solution was grants to private sector web developers, and the end result of that was either a bunch of poorly maintained WP sites, or people who got set up on Shopify. Most of those shut down when offline shopping came back. Rah, rah "digital mainstreet" LOL
@alan Yeah, it's not so easy to accomplish successfully. If you're going to do this, you've got to accept that there will be failures on the way to getting it right.
@alan While I manage the front end and tacking things together pretty well that would have shut me right down. Piss poor if the product was presented as release stable.

@Alison Well, you know it's a sponsored FOSS thing at an X.0 to X.1 release stage, and naturally I'm doing a bunch of edge case things. As far as the stuff most people would do, it's been pretty good... good enough for me to start messing with the edge cases.

It's also a lot different from the previous major release (like the J1.0 to J1.5 kind of different) and I appear to be an early adopter.

Life on the bleeding edge, as usual. ๐Ÿ˜‰

@alan Right then. Enough said. :)
@alan YOu've got me wondering now... I have a no-development-skills except the HTML I learned in 1998 website but my host InMotion does have selling options... I don't know if they outsource or not.
When I went to them the reviews were often disdainful: well, if you only want to host a few sites, it's okay!!! I'm playing with doing M oodle on it...