@neil I would say that there is a certain amount of #AppleEnvy at #Microsoft and #Google right now.

A #WalledGarden allows higher #Rent and cheapens compliance with legislation that attempts to restrict what users can do.

Open source - and thus backdoor-free - VPNs and e2ee are probably being targeted as preemptive obedience to future laws.

@tomstoneham @neil to be fair it's quite easy for people to leave windows and switch to linux.

A lot of gaming is already happening on linux and I am astonished when like >60 people working in non-tech jobs are talking about linux distributions

@Dragon @tomstoneham @neil who is "they"?

The gaming companies?
The 60 year olds i mentioned?
Microsoft?

@saxnot @Dragon @tomstoneham

> who is "they"?

Governments / legislatures, or those who control pinch points in terms of hardware or BIOS/UEFI.

In essence, the line of thinking is that "just install Linux" is only viable when one can, indeed, install Linux.

@neil @Dragon @tomstoneham linux is the most used operating system in the world
all the cloud, websites, android, dishwashers etc are using Linux

On the desktop it's not used that much but let's be honest the desktop is dying

@saxnot @Dragon @tomstoneham

> let's be honest the desktop is dying

I am sceptical of this. Much though I'd love to do my work on a dishwasher.