Ricky Mondello1d ago

Did you know that you can export your saved data (including passkeys!) from Apple Passwords to another app on your iPhone or iPad? Top level of the app, ... menu, “Export Data to Another App”.

And you can export your saved data (including passkeys) from 1Password to another app on your iPhone or iPad, too! Top level of the app, user avatar, Settings, Advanced, Start Export.

Folks from 1Password, Dashlane, Bitwarden, NordPass, Apple, and Google collaborated on a data interoperability standard to make this possible. Building on top of that, iOS has first-class support for migrating that standardized data between apps.

Not all apps will support all of the data that’s possible to be transferred, but this really might help you switch from one app to another. There’s no need for a desktop computer and a CSV file, and those CSV files never supported migrating passkeys. The OS support for this exists on Mac, but third-party apps have been slower to adopt it.

Everything I’ve said here is public information and available to use on your i{Phone,Pad}OS 26 devices today.

Show threaddxzdb

@rmondello Good to know!

Passkey adoption question for you:
I just upgraded a Mac from Sonoma to Sequoia and the first screen required a AppleID login - there was no way to get to 1Password from that screen. Does that change if I used a passkey? In my non-Passkey world I brought up 1PW on another device and typed my password - what would happen with passkeys?

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Show threadkΔ15h ago
@dxzdb @rmondello If you’re using Apple Password then do not store your Apple password on it. You need to have that one password in life to get to the others. You would need to use it to get to it anyway 🤭
Show threaddxzdb8h ago

@kDelta @rmondello Great … so do you make it easy to remember or write it down? 😖

Seems like an incomplete way to manage passwords especially compared to #1Password

There must be more to the answer - like that screen would have a spot to enter biometrics for a passkey or it will someday. Still, I don't think macOS is all the way up at that point so I'm not sure how a totally passkey world works there. Maybe you unlock another device first?

Show threadkΔ5h ago

@dxzdb if 1Password lets you into 1Password without a password I’d be quite worried about it 😬 Is it not called 1Password for that very reason? 🤔

Edit: Yes you can use biometrics, but you still need to have a password. What if you lose a finger or your face changes and you’ve lost the device?

Show threaddxzdb1h ago

@kDelta 1PW provides assists to prevent access loss including: family admins, web access, & emergency printout suitable for your safe.

My original point was an Apple screen w/ no way to enter anything but a password - you CAN’T use biometrics.

I can see the point that remembering an AppleID password gives similar functionality to 1PW - but not if
a. you have more than 1 Apple ID
b. you have any non-Apple devices
c. you want to log into a family member’s stuff
d. Apple ID fails somehow

Show threadkΔ1h ago

@dxzdb if you have more than one you can indeed store it on Apple Passwords. You can indeed even store the password for your main Apple account on Apple Passwords. I just think that would be a really daft thing to do as you may at some point need it to get in anyway so you need to remember it. You can even share passwords with family if you wish using Apple Passwords.

Biometrics are great but what if your face changes? I’ve had neurosurgery. What if you lose a hand and no longer have the fingerprint you used? What if your eyeballs are burnt away or poked out in a tragic accident? They are great for convenience but one is not enough.

In a final note Apple’s use of biometrics does not ever, ever, record a copy of your face or fingerprint and pass it around. If a password manager wanted to store that there is no way in hell I would hand it over.

Personally I’d advise not to use Apple Passwords anyway if your life is not Apple centric, in fact the way America is I wouldn’t give any data or business to an American company if it can be avoided. ☺️👍

Show threaddxzdb20m ago

@kDelta It's good to point out the distinction between storing biometrics and what Apple does. I guess each device has its own set of unlock stuff stored in its secure enclave - which IS great.

Apple servers have gone down too much and there's too many great things about #1password for me to switch to Apple Passwords. Passkey use is a separate issue. The one I was forced to get - does work well.

1PW is owned by a Canadian company - but they have employees all over the world I believe.

Show threadMisha Hill11h ago
You can generally skip the AppleID login during setup, and enter it in Settings after the onboarding/first boot stuff has completed, so you can get to other apps. Doesn’t apply if restoring from iCloud backup.