@reloadedhead @fj Where is the line for you in the balance between individual wants and the known dangers? We can already count the dead children, and measure how poor the visibility is. More than once I have had to bang on an SUV to stop them driving over my child laden bakfiets at a crossing (because they went through the lights when there wasn’t space to go on and blocked the crossing so I had to pass in front and they couldn’t see me and started to move with the traffic in front.