Pete2d ago
So #BikeTooter seems very excited by this noise-cancelling headphone negating bell, but I don't get it. Pedestrians have priority. End of. They don't need to hear you. Many can't hear you even if they wanted to. Thinking that dinging a bell comes with an expectation of a clear run is no different to drivers honking a horn and expecting cyclists to get out the road. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
#Cycling #BikeTooter
Show threadSamuelJohnson

@pete > pedestrians have priority. End of.

Not in the bike lane they don't. Try it in the Netherlands, you'll get it quickly.

The issue isn't simply a matter of entitlement in any case, but of safety. Pedestrians walking in or potentially about to step into a bike lane can and often do endanger others as well as themselves. Sure, some are deaf. Some wear bone conducting headphones so they can hear ambient sounds. Some are absent minded. Others think they can do what they like with impunity.

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Show threadJay Blanc2d ago
@samueljohnson @pete Afaik, this isn't true. Pedestrians have presumed priority over *all* other traffic, including Cyclists. And that means both the explicit pedestrian paths, and implicit priority when it is not. Being required to use the cycling lanes does not mean you have priority in those lanes over pedestrians, and should show just as much caution where pedestrians can step into the lane as car drivers have to on roads. Don't repeat the mistakes of car drivers.
Show threadSamuelJohnson2d ago

@jay @pete

Entirely wrong

https://nlforbeginners.com/rules-for-pedestrians-and-dutch-bike-lanes-for-those-about-to-die-we-salute-you/

Rules for Pedestrians and Dutch Bike Lanes: For Those About to Die, We Salute You! – NL for Beginners

Show threadJon PENNYCOOK2d ago
@samueljohnson @jay @pete > "If you must cross a bike lane, do so quickly and with purpose—think of it like Frogger or as an Olympic sprint rather than a leisurely stroll"
Show threadTwobiscuits🚴‍♂️ 1d ago
@samueljohnson @pete In the Netherlands the headphones would have to be programmed to filter out a range of swearwords! 🥰