From my cold dead hands....
Pedestrians have the right of way.
Calm down.... All you have to be is considerate. It won't hurt you.
@zebulonmysterioso @Cycling_Liz @pete
The more vulnerable user is the least responsible.
A cyclist should ALWAYS give way to pedestrians, ANC headphones or not.
It doesn't hurt a cyclist to slow down to pass safely, on a shared path. If a cyclist doesn't, then the cyclist is the asshole.
Signed... A cyclist.
@pete @ClintonAnderson @Cycling_Liz
Are we discussing the same thing? I thought we were sharing perspectives on a bike bell that could cut through NC to help alert someone unaware of a bike's approach (from behind them) so that the cyclist could initiate a safe and respectful overtake?
Right of way doesn't really factor in, it's sharing situational awareness.
@zebulonmysterioso @ClintonAnderson @Cycling_Liz
> β¦ it's sharing situational awareness.
Perhaps technically yes, but the reality is that too many cyclists (and in turn car drivers) think that letting someone know they are there is necessary, and then ought
to lead to the more vulnerable road user ceding the space.
@pete @zebulonmysterioso @Cycling_Liz
I THINK it was Not Just Bikes who suggested that Car Horns need to be as loud IN the vehicle as they are outside the vehicle.
Maybe then CarBrains wouldn't use their horn as a licence to drive like assholes...
,-)
@ClintonAnderson @pete @zebulonmysterioso @Cycling_Liz since moving to Lisboa I've been intrigued by the combination of (i) very frequent horn honking for no apparent purpose and (ii) incredibly high levels of respect for pedestrians by drivers - they usually stop when someone is anywhere *near* a crosswalk entrance, much less actually stepping into it.
It may not come as a surprise that most of the few dangerous encounters I've had here as a pedestrian were with Tesla drivers.
@zebulonmysterioso @pete @Cycling_Liz
It is NOT the pedestrians responsibility to give way to the cyclist.
Pete
Cycling_Liz
Clinton Anderson SwordForHire
Je ne comprends pas
Jon