AI6YR BenLet's punch this puppy into a website. One nuclear armed madman plus large city... Not including fallout. How many millions dead?
FreddyB Aviation Photography@ai6yr So the only flaw is that they would most likely use a Minuteman III which would have a nominal yield of 300KT
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Fun little story from back in the day.
We would have air raid drills in junior high in the 60s. One fine day, our teacher said don't bother climbing under the chairs. Between March AFB and Norton on the other side of Box Springs mountain, there was no way any of us would survive. While probably true, that was less comforting than he intended.
Fun little story from back in the day.
We would have air raid drills in junior high in the 60s. One fine day, our teacher said don't bother climbing under the chairs. Between March AFB and Norton on the other side of Box Springs mountain, there was no way any of us would survive. While probably true, that was less comforting than he intended.
MsMerope@Dougfir @ai6yr @driusan @cvvhrn
So yeah, I went to an elementary school adjacent to the Alameda, Naval Air Station, and this was during the Vietnam war, and we too, had to do the duck and cover under our desks, unfortunately, as has been the case since my time began…
Even at the age of seven, I was a highly logical thinker and had the audacity to inform the teacher that hiding under our desks was a waste of time because we were gonna get blown up anyway
Yeah, that was a phone call to my parents …
Julescelt@julescelt01 @MsMerope @Dougfir @ai6yr @driusan The ducked under the desk made for easier charred carcass identification
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Paul_IPv6@MsMerope @Dougfir @ai6yr @driusan @cvvhrn
LOL.
i had a similar discussion about how a wooden desk wasn't going help either a nuclear bomb or a tornado. :)
my mom's ambition, never realized, was to be able to walk into a school office where my sister and i attended and not be instantly recognized by the entire office staff. :)
@paul_ipv6 @Dougfir @ai6yr @driusan @cvvhrn
y'all want some ptsd?
Duck And Cover (1951) Bert The Turtle
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hattifattener@paul_ipv6 @MsMerope @Dougfir @ai6yr @driusan @cvvhrn I didn't understand this at the time, but the bigger a bomb is, the larger is the penumbral area where the blast/radiation doesn't kill you but the flying debris does. In the 1950s bombs were getting very big. Later, as missile guidance got more precise, they switched to smaller but more numerous bombs. In a full exchange survival may be pointless. But if you do want to survive for a while, even a thin barrier can really increase your odds.
@hattifattener @paul_ipv6 @MsMerope @ai6yr @driusan @cvvhrn
I can understand that as an adult but back in the 60s, I would never have understood such nuances.
I can understand that as an adult but back in the 60s, I would never have understood such nuances.
@hattifattener @paul_ipv6 @MsMerope @Dougfir @ai6yr @driusan
Spot on. As missiles became more accurate, the emphasis on city busters like the W-53 (Largest even in service int he US) which was a whopping 9MT or 600x the Hiroshima blast delivered by a Titan II which had a CEP of up to 1.5km, where as a modern Trident D5's CEP is 90m or so its W88 warhead is up to 475kt
@hattifattener @paul_ipv6 @MsMerope @Dougfir @ai6yr @driusan
Yep, assuming you survive the initial blast wave, radiation exposure has three primary things you can mitigate
1) Time, less time exposed is a no brainer
2) Distance, get far away from the source. Easier said than done in a full exchange
3) Shielding: The more the better but even an improvised shelter made up of a trench that you reinforce and cover with dirt will provide a degree of shielding
Weather_Rock_Wx@MsMerope @Dougfir @ai6yr @driusan @cvvhrn
We had a bomb shelter built into the hillside opposite my elementary school. It was also used for community events - I remember getting the polio vaccine on a sugar cube there. Perhaps one of my earliest memories.
When I was a bit older-old enough to swear- the air raid siren went off in the middle of the night. This also was during the Cold War. I remember thinking “Oh no, those bastards, they wouldn’t would they?”
I really don’t (didn’t?) want to go back to those feelings of insecurity.
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