Mastodawn

If you live in Switzerland you can get a 25Gbit fiber link to your home. That's 25Gbit *symmetrical* - upload *and* download. On a dedicated connection that's yours and yours alone. From multiple providers. It's the *ne plus ultra*, *magnifico*, *wunderschön*:

https://www.init7.net/de/internet/fiber7/

If you'd like an essay-formatted version of this thread to read or share, here's a link to it on pluralistic.net, my surveillance-free, ad-free, tracker-free blog:

https://pluralistic.net/2026/04/07/swisscom/#stacked

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Sylocule 1d ago

@pluralistic Spain have a similar system to Switzerland. Fibre to the house and you can use any provider. Most are around 1Gb symmetrical, but 10Gb is available from 1 company.

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Troed Sångberg 1d ago

@Sylocule

Can't say we have a national system in Sweden but most regions have built out "black fiber" (not tied to a specific provider) where we then can select amongst a few.

I'm on 1/1 Gbit and I think some places can get 10/10.

@pluralistic

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flatplanet

@troed @Sylocule @pluralistic we have National Broadband Ireland #NBI here. The idea was to run fiber everywhere that wasn't commercially viable, and have multiple resellers sitting on top. Haven't seen any offers for symmetrical, but no technical reason not to. I'm on 500/50 (1G+ services available but don't really need them) on an island in the extreme South West of the county.

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Colm 1d ago

@flatplanet @troed @Sylocule @pluralistic There is a "technical" reason not to, which is that much of the fibre rollout in Ireland (whether from open Eir or NBI or SIRO) plugs into infrastructure which is largely based on passive optical networks. While many of the recent installs are based on XGS-PON, these networks by their nature are quite asymmetrical, focusing on download speed.