Mastodawn

https://github.com/nvim-treesitter/nvim-treesitter/discussions/8627

open source software developers are getting fed up and are finally recognizing that they can just fucking leave.

the owner of nvim-treesitter gets a really shitty comment from a user saying that the update to a required version broke their workflow
the owner replies saying "hey just pin what you need instead of mainlining it if you need this for an older version"
the shitty user replies back saying "go switch to something that doesn't require interacting with people"
the owner says "OK." and ARCHIVES THE REPO

like, holy shit, what a power move.

luna the doggie

@chirpbirb damn maybe people will finally start not taking shit for granted

@lunareclipse @chirpbirb nah, they will now shit on the maintainer

then fork it and revert that commit, as well as rename main to master

@lunareclipse @chirpbirb same as what happened with duckstation

the developer got so fed up with linux users he changed license to one that prohibits distribution (i.e. you can use the provided builds or build it yourself, but not package it) - and ofc linux users respected it and quietly left...

...haha no, they declared the developer the devil, and were (and still are) like: I don't care, you can't stop me

🏳️‍🌈🎃🇧🇷Luana🇧🇷🎃🏳️‍🌈1d ago

@lunareclipse @chirpbirb @alice duckstation is a completely different story

@luana @lunareclipse @chirpbirb how so?

solo 14h ago

@alice @lunareclipse @chirpbirb @luana I've heard that the duckstation dev is apparently... a specimen.

14h ago

@solonovamax @lunareclipse @chirpbirb @luana I haven't heard anything, so specifics would be nice

tho idk if that changes anything - like even if he turns out to be fascist for example, I guarantee you that it wouldn't be why people were like fuck you you can't stop me from packaging it

Etch 11h ago

@alice
as far as i know stenzek is fairly problematic because he never thinks he's in the wrong, he has changed nicknames and infiltrated back into project that cut contact with him.
He is very talented (he's the one that finished the ubershader project for dolphin after the original creator burned out) but imo he has zero social skills, its true that he has every right to do whaever he wants with his project but expecting people to stop packaging the last gpl commit is very naive, there are smarter solutions to the linux packaging issue that he will never consider because he wants to die on that hill, duckstation's situation is different and more complex than just users being assholes.
He has something against linux too, he's the guy that dropped wayland support on pcsx2, not to mention the fiasco regarding some of his android projects where he stole money from patreon and backstabbed his discord moderators (while using an alt account for unknown reasons)
@lunareclipse @chirpbirb @solonovamax @luana

9h ago

@Etch9 @lunareclipse @chirpbirb @solonovamax @luana sure, then just ignore his projects and walk away

that's not what happened here, is it not?

Etch

@alice
i am in fact ignoring duckstation, i dont use it, and hadnt thought about him since before this thread.
Since you said "haven't heard anything, so specifics would be nice" i gave you those specifics, i can give you links if you want them (i would need to do some research to find again all the info).
My point is that the AUR is a user repo, its very naive to expect that everyone will respect your wishes when you dont maintain the AUR package yourself.
As a maintainer he has every right to change the license and trying to block repackaging, but since the code was gpl the user had the right to repackage it with the same license, the maintainer has the choice of dealing with this reality and culture in different ways and imho stenzek chose the least effective one(before the license change).
If the AUR is hosting post license change code then the Arch team needs to take action.
Im sorry for the long replies and if i sound confrontational.
i meant to send this earlier but i saved as draft

8h ago

@Etch9 this reply makes sense

aur very much is still hosting it, stenzek actually filed a removal request at some point but was ignored

and yeah, like boycotting it, or forking it would be the correct choices of action. Instead people decided to circumvent his license and call him a fascist for not wanting to support linux. Spreading awareness about what he did is also good, thx for doing that (I wasn't aware of that, for example - because the only thing people talk about is - "this guy sucks he made his app PROPRIETARY! he's saying he doesn't want to do work for free, fuck him for that, i want the app, gimme the app"

which... as I developer myself, this just tells me that people will immediately throw you under the bus if you do anything they don't like

whether he's a bad person outside of this is really irrelevant in this context - same as e.g. it would still be bad to misgender someone like caitlyn jenner - they are horrible people but that has nothing to do with being trans or not

same as here stenzek being a bad person has nothing to do with not wanting to support linux (which is not really surprising considering how people behave)

AUR (en) - duckstation-git