Bart PiotrowskiRE: https://mastodon.social/@lobsters/116356213007545397
No one (literally no one) is actually shitting any money into Flatpak but it's a fun read.
wagStoy@barthalion I agree with his flatpak/appimage points; maintain what you can, but:
> Think about what it costs us as a society for you to be recompiling every package you install on Gentoo. For every ridiculous declarative config you HAVE to make yourself on NixOS
To be fair, I'm not sure why the hostility... a lot of gentoo, nixOS... debian, whatever people are usually contributing fixes, tests, and bug reports back upstream when they can, which I would be inclined to argue is still 'valuable'... this bit alone almost completely invalidates the entire argument because he thinks the fragmentation as a whole is "pointless" and "valueless", when... honestly, its really not; people who work with linux are still here to please themselves, after all, and usually those medding in their own territories would be expected to have to help themselves, anyway.
What a childish article, really.
@swags Oh, that's what I mean by a fun read. It's hyperbolic to a fault, with plenty of comedic effect as a side effect. It's not correct by any means if you dig into it, of course there is more nuance to Linux than "distros bad, flatpak good". Especially calling out Gentoo or NixOS doesn't feel justified, as both are more tools for building your own distro than Ubuntu remix of the week.
@barthalion Ok true... there is a weird mix of satire and genuine arguments that I honestly cant distinguish them now :P fun read indeed!
Raven667@barthalion @swags There is a big difference in goals between someone who wants to "Run Linux" and build their own distro, build software from scratch, etc. and someone who uses a computer strictly as a tool to accomplish something else, playing games, browsing the internet and filing their taxes or whatever. The way a lot of distros go about things are more tuned the the wishes of people for whom running Linux _is_ the end goal, and less for people who are happy to run Linux as a means to an end, eg on a SteamDeck or Chromebook.
I think Bazzite, Flatpak and similar are much more in tune with the second use case than Gentoo or Debian and derivatives, and there can be a lot of tension with people from the first case who see the needed technical infrastructure as an imposition, a "dumbing down", making it too much like Windows/Mac, and who harass GUI app developers for not performing development/testing/packaging in the way they prefer (eg. dis-aggregating all library dependencies and supporting whatever version of de-duped library each shipping distro packages).