@alice

Is it possible to disable #android auto-updates? I'm guessing 'no'.

@teledyn if you happen to have a Pixel device, I'd highly recommend GrapheneOS.

I don't know if you can disable auto-updates in stock Android, but I know Google can remotely remove apps from it.

@alice I do expect they can do anything they like 'cause no matter who I paid what, it isn't MY phone, but my griping aside, what I want to block are System updates; they give me an option to _delay_, but I want similar to Linux where I can simply stop checking for updates.

Which brings up #GrapheneOS; it is said run on my Samsung S20, but (a) it is a one way trip and (b) I am not yet completely off my Google Workspace that also includes family members (all reluctant to change), so I would still be tied to Google and not sure how Graphene sits in that situation. As much as I try to use FDroid apps, there are still many I can only get via Google although perhaps there will be a Reform Movement in the pirate apk shops, trojan-free like it used to be.

@teledyn @alice

I have been using GraphineOS for about a year and there's no problem running sandboxed Google Play apps, including the security apps for work. It is my daily driver and never a hassle. But having a hardened system in today's world is important to my physical health.

@zymurgeek I use 2FAS on GrapheneOS for auth stuff, but I haven't run into any apps that don't work except Google Wallet (which might work now, but fuck Google, so 💁🏼‍♀️).

@dianea @teledyn