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"""
Google announced that as of September 2026, it will no longer be possible to develop apps for the Android platform without first registering centrally with Google.

This registration will involve:

- Paying a fee to Google
- Agreeing to Google’s Terms and Conditions
- Providing government identification
- Uploading evidence of the developer’s private signing key
- Listing all current and future application identifiers
"""

https://keepandroidopen.org/

#FuckGoogle #KeepAndroidOpen

Keep Android Open

Advocating for Android as a free, open platform for everyone to build apps on.

@alice

Is it possible to disable #android auto-updates? I'm guessing 'no'.

@teledyn if you happen to have a Pixel device, I'd highly recommend GrapheneOS.

I don't know if you can disable auto-updates in stock Android, but I know Google can remotely remove apps from it.

@alice I do expect they can do anything they like 'cause no matter who I paid what, it isn't MY phone, but my griping aside, what I want to block are System updates; they give me an option to _delay_, but I want similar to Linux where I can simply stop checking for updates.

Which brings up #GrapheneOS; it is said run on my Samsung S20, but (a) it is a one way trip and (b) I am not yet completely off my Google Workspace that also includes family members (all reluctant to change), so I would still be tied to Google and not sure how Graphene sits in that situation. As much as I try to use FDroid apps, there are still many I can only get via Google although perhaps there will be a Reform Movement in the pirate apk shops, trojan-free like it used to be.

@teledyn @alice not an expert, but from what I understood, Graphene allows running any app that runs on a Google Android, except those that require play services are sandboxed.

@teledyn @alice

I have been using GraphineOS for about a year and there's no problem running sandboxed Google Play apps, including the security apps for work. It is my daily driver and never a hassle. But having a hardened system in today's world is important to my physical health.

@dianea @alice

So all I really need is courage? πŸ˜…

@dianea @teledyn @alice Does Microsoft Authenticator work? I'd love to run Graphene if it did!

@zymurgeek I use 2FAS on GrapheneOS for auth stuff, but I haven't run into any apps that don't work except Google Wallet (which might work now, but fuck Google, so πŸ’πŸΌβ€β™€οΈ).

@dianea @teledyn

@alice @zymurgeek @dianea

Is there any alternative to Google Wallet? I tap to pay almost daily.

@teledyn I put my NFC card in my phone case, then just tap my phone πŸ˜‹

@zymurgeek @dianea

@zymurgeek @dianea @teledyn @alice yes, Microsoft Authenticator works in the attached exploit protection configuration!

Genuinely everything works on GrapheneOS, you just might have to hit that little compatibility mode toggle at the top.

Also, install sandboxed Play Services on a profile separate from your main profile to mitigate any big tech surveillance concerns without reducing the capabilities of your daily driver. Enhanced user profiles are very useful

@ProbablyNotAFed @zymurgeek @alice

+1 on @dianea 's comment - been using a P7Pro for daily driver and P6a for "experimenting" and both have run GrapheneOS just fine for some time now. My best geeking days are behind me and the install was brainless and have only had a couple minor gotchas which have turned out to be documented on the interwebs.

@teledyn As far as Google Workspace, I have that for family as well and no issues. Am not aware of any way to stop GrapheneOS updates if you migrate.

FWIW I use Ageis for 2FA today and Authy previously, also no issues.

@dianea @teledyn @alice I also need apps I can only get on the Google play store. Graphene OS runs them perfectly. It's been my daily driver for a couple of years. I also control the access the play store and Google play services have to my phone. They get the bare minimum. It's the best compromise you'll get.
@teledyn @alice My understanding is that for security purposes (its main mission), GrapheneOS only supports Pixel hardware (not a "Google" thing, rather a security hardware support thing). Possibly some have it working on other hardware, but it wouldn't be supported. They will support Motorola hardware "soon," where "soon" roughly equals "late 2027."
@teledyn @alice I will add that I've been trying GrapheneOS lately, and it seems to work well. I just got my SIM transferred to a new phone and am in the process of converting to it on the new phone as my daily driver.