TeflonTrout  he/him1d ago

so Fedi is an echo chamber, sez a recent unnamed toot. I see that too.

But then they go on to say we should stop bullying fucking assholes (people with "other" viewpoints, like AI shills) and letting them play in our jungle gym.

The toot has already got tons of replies, but I just wanted to say:

No. Fuck you. This community is chock full of people from marginalized communities, and any push to get us to "open up" to people with "different viewpoints" that include fucking fascist autocorrect bots that are shredding the net to devour it is just fucking stupid.

I don't give a shit if Fedi grows. I rather like being a place where people from famous artists like Micheal Whelen, to community instigators like VantaBlack and PhoenixSerenity feel comfortable interacting with everyone directly.

The people most in favor of this fucking nonsense have a HUGE idealogical overlap with those who burn crosses, so to speak.

If that means we stay small? Good. Fuck outta here. If we disagree with you to the point we get savage at you, YOU DON'T DESERVE TO BE HERE

Show threadGeofCox22h ago

@TeflonTrout

I don't want an echo-chamber - I just want polite, respectful sharing and discussion. If to get that, we have to exclude the extreme right, then so be it. All they have to do to get included is to behave like reasonable people.

Show threadMarianne18h ago
@GeofCox @TeflonTrout I don't think anyone can be both far-right and reasonable. Their 'concerns' are de facto unreasonable.
Show threadlockspringer17h ago
@noodlemaz @GeofCox @TeflonTrout true! u can forget about the real Nazis u want to go for the people that follow these fanatics, people are opportunists - this is seen way too negative - it’s a chance, a lot will change their mind. Engage with the undecided. No alt-right people are not unreasonable - they just attribute problem to the wrong cause! Fear of loosing your job? - true! It’s the migrants fault - No, and this is why XYZ etc…
Show threadTeflonTrout  he/him16h ago

@lockspringer @noodlemaz @GeofCox

I live in Trump country. I am afraid you are way too generous in your assessment of the US, if not humanity in general.

I hope I'm wrong about that, but what can you do?

Show threadlockspringer15h ago

@TeflonTrout @noodlemaz @GeofCox

do a Trump and turn the Democratic Party into 1 that advocates Social Democracy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_democracy

Then u can go outside. Ze Weather is great! And don’t worry about allergies, since u got European style health care, medication is 3€/month, might even be lower, as part of the EU single market having joined after Mexico and Canada in 2029. u do miss imperial units though, and semi automatic AR-15s 🥹

Social democracy - Wikipedia

Show threadTeflonTrout  he/him

@lockspringer @noodlemaz @GeofCox

Fuck yes, sign me up!

I've had more than enough of semiautomatic M-16s and M-4s before I held an AR for the first time.

I'm a real miserable asshole, but I don't think I'm tough enough to do the heartless things I'd have to do to foment a fucking international cult.

Fuck, I'd kill myself first.

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Show threadlockspringer14h ago
@TeflonTrout @noodlemaz @GeofCox no need to join a cult (international or local) or shoot yourself. If your miserable think that this won’t always be the case in the future, but it is possible that you have to do something about it, miserable might not go away on its own, that can be talking to a good friend or relative, and asking them if they think you need professional help like a doctor or a therapist, if you yourself are unsure
Show threadTeflonTrout  he/him14h ago

@lockspringer @noodlemaz @GeofCox

thank you, genuinely. I am ok but, if I had to lead a cult I wouldnt be able to live with myself. I cant lead

Show threadlockspringer13h ago
@TeflonTrout @noodlemaz @GeofCox well u can always try and ask others for feedback, way better than to self assess, if only the group of people is big enough and feedback can be given in anonymous manner.
Show threadTeflonTrout  he/him3h ago

@lockspringer @noodlemaz @GeofCox

You are very good at helping people stay grounded, did you know that? That is rock solid advice.