Jesus died for my sins and I’m going to make sure he gets his money’s worth

@dramypsyd

Great discussion in _Debt: The First 5000 Years_ ( David Graeber, Melville House, 2011) about the equivalence of money debt and sin.

So yeh, you're not far off.

@lemgandi @dramypsyd I do love this reading, but I've actually found a deeper connection to Christ through Graeber. Chris the Redeemer - it is a commercial transaction. But intended to wipe debts of all sorts. When I look around at folks like Talarico, I see that this is a political movement against the usage of money as a factor to marginalize and dehumanize mankind.

One on hand, there is Trump. And on the other, there is Jesus - who commands us to pray for not only those who owe us debts but our debtors (ultimately to remove the shackles of debt entirely). Trump is bearing false witness to remove a regulator who controls interest rates (another sinful activity...).

The Sermon on the Mount is a dangerous political message, even one that would take down Gavin Newsom. Blessed are the poor, they'll always be with you.

Shame to those who use Christ to perpetuate cycles of crime and economic violence. It is the opposite, it is an attempt to remove the yoke of the axial age thrust upon us. Money is not a tool that feeds the needy - it is a tool to remove the access to the corners of the fields god commands us to leave for those who need it. It is man who warps these things - people who support a figure like Trump. Wild.

@JoeHenzi @dramypsyd

Heh! Very thoughtful!

I personally myself find most Christians baffling. But I appreciate your take on this.

@lemgandi @dramypsyd If Christians are talking to you about abortion or homosexuality they are not anymore

@JoeHenzi @lemgandi @dramypsyd

I've been enjoying reading your toots, but I gotta say, I don't agree with this.

Plenty of people are peeling off the blinders. They're learning to be decent humans and value humanity, not just being "a good Christian."

There were plenty of times in the past when I thought that abortion was the biggest issue of the day, the gravest injustice. I wasn't any less of a Christian then, just less of a human, less of a complete person.

@rl_dane @lemgandi @dramypsyd You're right, they are bad people, this makes sense.

EDIT: blinders though, I'm sorry lol, this is funny

@rl_dane @lemgandi @dramypsyd I really hate social media.

@JoeHenzi @lemgandi @dramypsyd

It was very different 15 years ago. It's become a hellhole today. I don't have any fb/twitter/instagram/reddit accounts anymore.

@rl_dane @lemgandi @dramypsyd it still is bad, even here, right now

@JoeHenzi @lemgandi @dramypsyd

The beauty of the fediverse is that you have a lot of control over your experience.

Adding filters and unfollowing doomboosters has done a lot for my mental health.

@rl_dane @lemgandi @dramypsyd ohhhh, trust me - I'm going to use these tricks just to keep myself from pointing out how terrible people are becoming.

@JoeHenzi @lemgandi @dramypsyd

It's honestly far more complex than even that.

You can be a great person in your interpersonal relationships, but be an absolute heel in your political world, because you utterly fail to see the repercussions of your ideological bent, or how the policies you support negatively affect so many people.

People fail time and time again to spot their own cognitive biases. Survivorship bias is huge among conservatives, as well as simply not understanding that people who look different than them will have a wildly different life experience, even if all other variables were replicated.

The real tragedy of the current situation is that people who are overall good can have a terrible effect on the world at large.

I couldn't engage. They were mislead into thinking abortion was important - they *were* less of a Christian. Christians aren't supposed to care about that - at all - and they are to value humanity, they are decent humans. The comment they are not or that others are more capable of this is stupidity. The confusion is Christians and Christianity. There are hateful bigots who are Christians - but that's not the teachings. Any more than Bin Laden represented Islam.

Religious people don't have blinders on. Bigots do. Saying religious people have hate is being a bigot too. It is not the teachings. Those people are bigots.