LOL!

1. the term " #Ubermensch" was coopted by the #Nazis, don't use it

2. Still today, the stereotypical #Nietzsche fan is a pathetic #rightWing " #alphaMale" turd shallowly servicing their male insecurities to *conform*

3. But the original idea: a self-mastering individual creating their own values

4. #AlysaLiu quit #figureSkating because it was toxic. Then she returned on her own terms, for her own joy, fuck the world

You don't have to like Nietzsche, it's a sly roast of #MAGA losers

@benroyce I have read Nietzsche, & while I have huge disagreements with many of his views (including the ubermensch), he also broke off his relationship with Richard Wagner because of his anti-Semitism & was staunchly anti-nationalist, becoming an increasing opponent of second reich Germany. It is highly likely that had he lived to see the Nazis, he would have detested Hitler as much as grew to despise Wagner’s racial nationalism.

@archivescribe

i agree

the unfortunate truth though is the usual nietzsche fanboy today hews to the way in which the nazis were nietzsche fanboys: all in the name of shallow superficial toxic masculinity, fascism, bigotry. little desire to truly understand

we both understand the difference between nietzche's intent and what became of his words

but we still have to be careful with nietzsche fans today because of the fascist assholes who have planted their asses on the topic

@benroyce @archivescribe I had only come across the nazi interpretation of Nietzsche's work, so colour me surprised when two feminists who studied literature and philosophy started excitedly bonding over how Nietzsche's work was misunderstood.

@mayintoronto @archivescribe

even though original intent and how words are interpreted are two separate forces, the original intent does not negate the popular usage of someone's work

we run the risk of accommodating fascist assholes, so we have to stay wary of nietzsche because we want nothing to do with his fans

it's more of a lesson in the twisty ways of history, and how things are always complicated

@benroyce @mayintoronto @archivescribe Nietzsche wasn't a Nazi (his sister was and that's why he was co-opted), but he was extremely reactionary.

So, yes: not a Nazi, not an anti-semite (probably), but to be treated with caution. His iconoclastic views against Christianity and philosophy in general are eye-opening, but swallowing his writing whole without criticism is not recommended.

@flipper @mayintoronto @archivescribe

well said

i mostly posted the meme to roast MAGA losers on their terms, not rehabilitate nietzsche