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Theodore Casser 1d ago

@serge Rules for thee but not for me, amirite?

M. Grégoire 1d ago

@serge Absolutely right. The laws shouldn't be trying to force secularism on Quebeckers, they should be encouraging religious pluralism.

I wouldn't be surprised if Catholic processions have trouble getting permits next year. I'll let you know.

(By the way, Easter marches are not a tradition in Canada; the custom is marches on Good Friday, e.g. https://cosocial.ca/@mpjgregoire/116353245306825006 .)

M. Grégoire (@[email protected])

Attached: 1 image Vendredi, j'ai marché dans une foule des fidèles dans les rues de #Montréal, entre Notre-Dame-de-Bonsecours, la Basilique Notre-Dame, St Patrick's, et la cathédrale Marie-Reine-du-Monde. (Nous avions un permis pour l'empêchement de la circulation véhiculaire.) #VendrediSaint #GoodFriday

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@mpjgregoire

If the government of Quebec wants to fight Federal rights, a real secularism law would have also banned federal holidays that were religious in nature. Let them cancel Christmas, Easter, and New Years and defend it in court. Let them fully get rid of Sunday hours as well (not just the test program).

Honestly, why is it that religious countries like Romania and Israel do a better job at respecting religious freedoms than "Secular" ones like Canada?

TerryB 1d ago

@serge Years ago my boss greeted my telling her I’d be off for the Yom K and RHash days by announcing she thought I should work Xmas day instead then. I told her if she wanted to open up for 1 day in the 2 week holiday I’d happily go in. Funny but she didn’t!

@terryb

Wait, so she suggested you work Xmas, and then when you said yes, she didn't take you up on it?

I had a similar fight with a boss around 20 years ago... All my time was "PTO" - paid time off, so vacation + sick leave + holidays. They argued this was increased flexibility.

So when they announced the office would be closed on Christmas, I said that this should not come from my PTO since I didn't choose it. And they insisted it should since "No one will be in the office."

I told them that I didn't mind working alone- it would help me focus on some projects that needed focus. They then told me the building wouldn't have heat. I said "That's an OSHA issue" (ie this is an HSE problem).

They wouldn't budge. I wore a coat and came in.

@serge @terryb When I was working, I used PTO for Yom Kippur and Passover. There was no notion of floating holidays or anything like that.

@kolev

This depends entirely on your employment contract.

Mine said I work 40 hours a week, every day from Monday to Friday.

They often played fast and loose with what that meant, and I didn't appreciate it.

@terryb

TerryB 1d ago

@serge She couldn’t of course. We’re teachers and even our lousy, borderline antisemitic union wouldn’t accept that. Let alone the matter of our contract.

@serge French-minded Secularism grinds my gears. No wearing crosses or hijab in schools, etc. is so intolerant.

@serge I wonder how the French handle men and boys' tsitsit. Do they tell them to tuck it in or take it off entirely? Do they check to make sure they're not wearing a tallit katan underneath their shirt?

@kolev

They likely don't go to public school.