GeePawHill1d ago

Anyway, setting aside the ethical concerns, it seems perfectly clear that "setting aside the ethical concerns" is *precisely* the problem.

It is what got us in to this nightmare, and it is what is keeping us in this nightmare.

Please stop pretending that "setting aside the ethical concerns" is anything but a verbal signal indicating one's unwillingness to take personal responsibility for one's actions.

Show threadSasha Akhavi21h ago
@GeePawHill Who says “setting aside the ethical concerns”? About anything? That’s an insane thing to say. I must be pretty sheltered not to have run into this; I see lots of people complaining about it.
Show threadGeePawHill21h ago
@sakhavi it's a standard part of the "I am determining whether LLMs are good for coding!" shtick.
Show threadRandom Geek19h ago
@GeePawHill @sakhavi It is the argument by the same sort of person who says "I am a being of pure reason, who is immune to propaganda and unswayed by human emotion" and then writes a 13,000 word wall of text on how everyone misunderstood the good points in The Bell Curve.
Show threadgizmomathboy, FC18h ago

@randomgeek @GeePawHill @sakhavi oof.

Dude, that might be a bit offsides

Show threadRandom Geek18h ago
@gizmomathboy @GeePawHill @sakhavi I feel no need to be kind. Anybody willing to set aside the ethical concerns is not someone I will trust to watch my back, and I'll keep a sharp eye on them when they're right in front of me too.
Show threadgizmomathboy, FC

@randomgeek @GeePawHill @sakhavi you are not wrong

It's just sometimes you wonder if using the steel toed boots while they are getting kicked while they are down is warranted

I mean, I'm just awaiting confirmation mostly.

Mostly.

Apr 5 at 3:13amWeb
Show threadRandom Geek17h ago
@gizmomathboy (for the record, I would never kick someone when they're down. That's wrong. Use a steel pipe. You can maintain your balance and get better application of force.)
Show threadRandom Geek17h ago

@gizmomathboy and on a more earnest note, I leave plenty of room for "I hate this but I love my family so I gotta," or even an explicit "I don't care about what you call the ethical concerns."

Wouldn't want to hang out with that second person—and the first might be a bummer too—but I appreciate the honest appraisal.

Show threadgizmomathboy, FC17h ago

@randomgeek I in no way disagree with you at any point.

In fact I might have supplied said pipe or applied said pipe to the task at hand

Occasionally I have a moment of objective disengagement that analyzes a scenario and go... "Dayum"

Some times