Mastodawn

RE: https://hachyderm.io/@thomasfuchs/116346848141590494

People like to forget that fighting climate change is about _saving human lives_ and not about saving Earth.

Even if it's 20 degrees higher or 20 degrees lower on average, Earth will do fine, life will do fine, nature will be fine—but humans won't be fine.

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Lilly Hunter 1d ago

@thomasfuchs Um, I don't think nature will be fine with a 20ºC increase - that would likely lead to mass species die-off, both flora and fauna.

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Human Brain Enthusiast 1d ago

@LaChasseuse there were multiple points in the last 500 million years alone when the global temperature was >20ºC than today

before that fluctuations were even more extreme (but life wasn't as highly evolved yet)

(Source: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.adk3705)

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Lilly Hunter 1d ago

@thomasfuchs Yeah, the *planet*, (ie, a hunk of rock in outer space) will be just fine, but most life as we know it won't be around.
Tardigrades are nice and all, but I would hate to see the starlings, the sea gulls, the deer, the spiders and butterflies, our food crops, daisies, pine trees, trout, hamsters, beluga - all those things - disappear forever.

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su_liam

@LaChasseuse @thomasfuchs Hell, I even kind of like some of the humans, but they are a lot less appealing in the absence of civilization, which is even more delicate than life.