JP"ban-and-punish won't work, it's unenforceable etc" is not going to matter when the economics of this shit collapse completely, sometimes there are multiple reasons not to do a thing
allison@jplebreton what i worry about is that the actual value proposition of AI code generation isn't developer velocity, but centralizing control of digital infrastructure at the level of the code itself, and that the wealthy will be happy to subsidize that forever
@aparrish i don't think they *will* be able to subsidize it forever or even beyond the short term, but as always strategically we have to plan and counter whatever they might do *if they believe they can*.
mcc@jplebreton @aparrish my worry is that the techlords figure out some way to pay for it through taxation
@mcc @aparrish my reasoning that they won't be able to subsidize it forever isn't that they won't be able to invent whatever fictitious capital they need to "pay" for it, it's that all the interrelated production and logistic processes it depends on will degrade over the long term and/or suddenly hit crisis points. they have built a machine that destroys itself (and the society it's feeding off, unfortunately) over time. eventually (if we fight) they'll be forced to take the next offramp.
@jplebreton @aparrish I mean I think it's pretty easy to argue LLM pseudo-AI is a logical, inevitable endpoint of unfettered capitalism. A machine for pretending to do work
@mcc @aparrish definitely yes. a giant machine that drinks the alienated labor of an entire planet's worth of knowledge & culture workers, synthesizes and hyperconcentrates profits, and tries to re-consume its own waste products. a microcosm for the global-historic Machine Centipede as it lounges on the veranda overlooking extinction.
Mister Dave@jplebreton @mcc @aparrish "as it lounges on the veranda overlooking extinction" has rewired my brain.