Zach Perlman
zenmorph@perlman In a time increasing darkness in the digital realm, of increased #surveillance, #privacy erosion, and #enshittification , this development is a ray of refreshing sunshine.
Ed Burke
alina cyborg mouse 
@perlman in a place where neither meshcore nor Meshtastic nodes are present for miles, and no packet reaches me, what good is it?
@0 Today it might not be worth much. We do need network effects. But we have to start somewhere? I have no idea what I'm doing. Hopefully that helps.
@0 I'll work on making the messaging more clear. That everyone can connect over regular internet using TCP interfaces right away. Radio hardware like LoRa or packet radios extend our reach off-grid, but those are actually optional.
Päivi Järviö@perlman Thank you! Looking forward to the Mac version…
MarSik@perlman You know IP was invented for the purpose you like about mesh? To make comms survive a nuked city?
Internet is mesh too and always has been. It forwards packets node to node, routing around obstacles w BGP. You can still rent a fibre and peer w others. Or build an independent network.
What you are complaining about is that nobody runs services using local machines, but use aws or gcp. I agree w that.
TOR and .onion provide privacy and have been well researched, btw.