Fair cop @johnquiggin

There’s been a bit of discussion about ageing on here in response to a couple of other articles in the Guardian.

One thing John makes clear is that the experiences of some of my peers with elderly relatives have been or are with members of the Silent Generation. Most of them were/are smokers (my in-laws never smoked, which might relate to the fact that they’re not yet in care) and missed out on some other health care factors that probably affect long term health. (Vaccines for “childhood” diseases, fluoride etc.)

Obviously we learn about ageing by looking at old people, but each generation ages differently depending on healthcare advances etc.

I am worried about our ability to extend people’s lives long beyond a time at which they’ve stopped enjoying it. Of course this might change too, although the impacts of Covid on people as they age are yet to play out properly, & our refusal to acknowledge the ongoing threat of Covid will make this hard to document properly.

It would be interesting to compare ageing in countries like Australia & NZ where most people were vaccinated before catching Covid (and there are probably still some Novids around) with ageing in the US & Europe where so many people were exposed before vaccines were available. And apparently there are some countries where vaccines are no longer available.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2026/apr/04/older-australians-are-healthier-than-ever-but-this-hasnt-changed-the-way-we-talk-or-think-about-over-70s?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

Older Australians are healthier than ever, but this hasn’t changed the way we talk or think about over-70s

People are still classified as ‘older’ or even ‘elderly’ as early as 65, even though they are now expected to keep working until they are 67

The Guardian

@Susan60

probably still some Novids around

well i'm one... but then again, i acknowledge my, um, circumstances, ahem, render me quite an atypical sample. obvs. i wouldn't even know how to do a test!

@johnquiggin

#COVID19 #Novids #hermit #socialphobia #alone

@MsDropbear42 @johnquiggin

Wow. You’re not missing out on a fabulous experience…

@MsDropbear42 @Susan60 I had a very mild case just after lockdowns ended. Since then I avoid crowded indoor spaces as much as possible and keep vaccinations up to date. Have also avoided flu and (mostly) colds

@johnquiggin @MsDropbear42

I got my first case when working at a primary school, in spite of a HEPA filter & N95 mask. The masks don’t work do so well when you lower them to teach pronunciation…

And a 2nd when I had to spend several hours in an airport & had to eat & drink. I’ve since bought a portable HEPA for air travel. Will vax again before next trip.