Between the conservatives’ desire to avoid giving anything to the undeserving poor and the liberals’ desire to avoid giving anything to the undeserving rich, there is no social good we can’t come together as a nation to stop.
I was reminded of this point this morning by @mekkaokereke’s post:
https://hachyderm.io/@mekkaokereke/116340759204660827
mekka okereke :verified: (@[email protected])

Attached: 1 image They pay $34 for burgers. Should their fire department service be free? Opening a new fire department in one of NYC's richest neighborhoods has some of America's pettiest journalists asking silly questions in headlines again.🤡 The article acknowledges the fire department analogy, then blows past it.🤷🏿‍♂️ The solve for "Sometimes when a service like free childcare is available to all, marginalized communities get squeezed out," is "Address that racism." It's not "Therefore waste incredible amounts of time and money trying to means test something that society should just make available to all.🤡"

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“What should we do about rich people taking advantage of free services they don’t need?”

Tax them. Duh.

@maxleibman

Also, if rich people are using the services, they are invested in the quality of those services

@maxleibman
The means-testing that Democrats often demand is so wasteful. It would probably be cheaper to give whatever service to the occasional wealthy person than to spend all those bureaucratic resources on figuring out who is poor enough.

@maxleibman Except based on sociological and economical research we do know that there is no such thing as “underserving poor”, as any financial situation is almost always predetermined by structure, capital and conditions you are born into.

At the same time, it is very clear that there *is* such a thing as undeserving rich, meaning people whose input, labour and own contributions would never lead to privileges they can enjoy daily.

This is a deeply false and incorrect symmetry.

@ignacyy I am speaking from the point of view of the two groups and what motivates their opposition to policies, not making pronouncements about who is actually deserving or undeserving.

Moreover, you seem to have missed my point, which is that if we oppose free, universal public services because someone who doesn’t deserve them might get them—including someone rich enough not to need them—then we won’t have them for people who need them.

(To be fair, you may have missed my follow-up post, which linked to someone making that point more explicitly.)
@maxleibman It’s all driven from the American desire that everything needs to be fair for individuals, never taking into account the population as a whole
@maxleibman means testing in the us can be trivial - tax brackets exist - but conservatives actively want it to fail.

@ghostrunner That means testing is possible doesn’t mean it isn’t often carrying water for the right when you support it.

Do you believe in free school lunches, or do you believe in means testing? Do you believe in universal healthcare, or do you believe in means testing?

Dividing up the country into who is worthy of being taken care of or not is the conservatives’ game, and you’re playing it even when who you’re trying to mark “unworthy” are the rich (or their children).