"Why are flights in the UK so often cheaper than taking the train?"

Some of the reasons are nonsensical:
for trains:

"The fuel is subject to VAT at 5% on diesel and 20% on electricity.".

this should be the reverse?!?

for planes:

"Fuel accounts for a much bigger part of airlines’ costs, but they do not have to pay VAT or duty on it.".

whyyyy??
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2025/nov/19/why-are-flights-in-the-uk-so-often-cheaper-than-taking-the-train

#SaveThePlanet and tax planes in proportion of the damage they do to their environment!

Why are flights in the UK so often cheaper than taking the train?

The environmental costs of flying are much higher, and the government subsidises rail travel, so what explains the baffling price difference when travelling domestically?

The Guardian

@elduvelle @albertcardona Moreoever, why is it that there are direct flights between cities in the UK that I need eight changes on the train and a dozen little bus trips for?

With each change likely to fail at a rate of 10% that gives me a less than 50% change of reaching my destination…

Airplane it is.

@jonmsterling @elduvelle

This summer I have to go from Barcelona to Berlin. The non-flight options are ... insane. I wouldn't mind a 24-hour trip by train, but it's not even that*. Many legs, no coordination between providers, subways and buses included. I am not a XIX century naturalist crossing uncharted territory, I am crossing the European Union from South to somewhat North. It's embarrassing.

* I was hoping for a 2-leg train, i.e., Barcelona-Paris and Paris-Berlin in the same day, but no, that would require me sleeping in Paris! The lack of coordination is as astonishing as it is appalling.

@albertcardona @jonmsterling

I was invited to a potential symposium in a big conference in my field in Portugal this year.
I live in Scotland, technically not that far away really, but I would have had to do something like 7 changes and dozens of hours to do the trip by train, and at a huge cost. I do not fly because flying destroys the planet, so I had to pass out on the conference opportunity.

To be fair, this is also a problem with the conference itself, which does not allow hybrid talks... IMO all the conferences should be online or at least hybrid until we've fixed the problem of saving our planet.
#Cosyne2026 #AcademicConferences #AcademicChatter

@elduvelle @albertcardona @jonmsterling
Have you considered to set a sail on a small boat? :))
@ohir @elduvelle @albertcardona @jonmsterling
Revenons à l’époque où ces trajets prenaient plusieurs jours avec des pauses dans des auberges. Il fallait reposer les chevaux. Espagne/Allemagne avec une nuit en escale ce n’est pas si terrible. Mais ça augmente le prix du voyage en plus de tarifs ferroviaires qui ne sont des plus favorables pour le portefeuille.
@kaika1975 @elduvelle @albertcardona @jonmsterling
Merchant caravan was expected to make some 35km a day. It gives 1000km/month 6-9000km a tour (year). Some people from before the car era were more mobile that we are ready to acknowledge.