Wow. I don't think the US tech industry has quite grasped how big this is.

https://www.techpolicy.press/almost-two-thirds-of-europeans-back-replacing-us-tech-poll-finds/

Almost Two-Thirds of Europeans Back Replacing US Tech, Poll Finds

EU leaders are pursuing digital sovereignty plans to reduce the 27-country bloc’s dependence on the United States, writes Mark Scott.

Tech Policy Press
@j12t yeah me neither. They are also completely in the sand about the energy recession we are about to have.
@suzannealdrich @j12t Sunshine doesn't have to pass through the Strait of Hormuz! How decentralized renewal energy didn't become a major strategic and national security issue boggles the mind. It's almost like the government exists mostly to protect extractive industries!
@lerxst @j12t I think the bigger question is, do we even need government if we all have decentralized energy? It’s always a “power” thing with these people.
@suzannealdrich @lerxst The crypto people tried "no government". Everything got taken over by fraud and scams. I think it's a cautionary tale.
@j12t yes! I hope I live to see this and am still in Europe when it happens.
@j12t Hell, I'm an American, and I back replacing US tech. My domain names, virtual servers and containers, and CDN for my personal projects have moved to European providers.

@j12t

If you took the "Tech" out of that headline it would probably still be true.

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US Tech Titans are too busy blowing into the AI bubble.

@j12t Shhh! Never interrupt your enemy when they are making a mistake. If the EU were to replace all that stuff with local equivalents, which are already available as Open Source, they would also have millions of Americans signing up for them as well.
@j12t sadly most europeans still seem to think they live in a democracy and rather than a global imperialist order ruled by american techno-capital
@j12t Step one: get them off MS365
@j12t Tho being paranoid, what we really need is an EU based equivalent to Signal
@j12t Maybe Europeans don't grasp how entrenched US big tech is in their lives, either

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Just over 60 percent of people surveyed across France, Germany, Spain, Italy and Poland believe it is a good idea to replace US services.

Many in Germany want all US Services completely removed from public services and be replaced, with EU solutions, preferably open source solutions incl. Linux and Libreoffice.

We will not visit, usa, we strive not to purchase goods or foodstuffs from american company's incl. amazon mc donalds coca cola Jim Beam, Harley Levi or wrangler et al.

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I did the math a year ago: ~30-40% of FAANG revenue comes from the EU. Tech is ~20% of US GDP.

@j12t shhh... maybe viable alternatives will be in place before they notice.
I just hope the European tech industry has grasped it and it becomes a reality @j12t
@j12t As a European, I can say with absolute certainty that the EU is full of shit

@j12t The biggest challenge is making it happen.

We built a cloud architecture about 6-8 years ago, based on Microsoft's Azure services. It would be very hard to move away from that.

I agree it needs to be done, but find us an alternative to Azure or AWS that is as robust and vanilla EU. Very difficult.

We can't ignore it though: we cannot trust US tech.

@rozeboosje step 1 if I were in charge: hire the people who built those clouds. Note they likely don’t like trump either.

@j12t Yeah but what if you *consume* these services?

For example, we use Microsoft Azure Blob Storage to store documents. Of course we store these in North Europe, based in Ireland in the EU. It is fast, robust, and protected through GDPR. It integrates with our software through REST APIs and to end users there is no difference between On Premises and Cloud Storage, functionality wise.

Microsoft is covered by the CLOUD Act, though. To remove THAT risk, what EU based provider do we use instead?

@rozeboosje As a buyer of cloud services, what I'd do is publish the fact that you would like to buy from a European cloud service, here are the parameters, basically a public RFP, and then find lots of other buyers in the same position who say the same thing. If you aggregate enough potential orders for basically the same product, I'd be very surprised if you didn't have some product-adjacent EU provider say "we can do this".