Gina2d ago

Well, this is unfortunate.

"Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the [US] government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy."

#proton #protonmail #digitalsovereigty #opensource

https://www.sambent.com/proton-meet-isnt-what-they-told-you/

Proton Meet Isn't What They Told You It Was

Proton built Proton Meet to escape the CLOUD Act. They built it on CLOUD Act infrastructure. Their website promises "not even government agencies" can access your calls. The company routing them hands your call records to the government when asked. Proton hid them from their privacy policy.

Sam Bent
Show threadCassandrich
@Gina Of course they did. Because Proton is owned by a fan of fascism.
Apr 3 at 2:21pmWeb
Show threadTroed Sångberg2d ago

@dalias

Only if you don't know the meaning of the words "own" and "fascism".

@Gina

Show threadMorgan ⚧️1d ago
@troed @dalias @Gina are you misinformed or choosing to die on the "Donald Trump is not a fascist" hill that collapsed for most of the world at least a year ago?
Show threadTroed Sångberg1d ago

@raphaelmorgan

It is you who don't know what Proton's CEO actually said.

@dalias @Gina

Show threadCassandrich1d ago
@troed @raphaelmorgan @Gina I read it when he said it.
Show threadTroed Sångberg1d ago

@dalias

So, besides a CEO being an employe of the company and not the owner, tell us more about how what he said means he's a "fan of fascism".

It's easily citeable if you're correct, right?

@raphaelmorgan @Gina

Show threadCassandrich1d ago
@troed @raphaelmorgan @Gina No, I am not doing your homework or debating with a fascist apologist asshole who's up in my mentions. You don't get to demand things of me. Bye.
Show threadTroed Sångberg1d ago

@dalias

Generally in society the onus is on the one making a claim to be able to support it.

Your feels don't carry any weight.

@raphaelmorgan @Gina

Show threadTroed Sångberg1d ago

@raphaelmorgan

Since Cassandrich chose the option "I'll block those who point out that I'm wrong" I'll guess I'll have to do their work for them:

https://medium.com/@ovenplayer/does-proton-really-support-trump-a-deeper-analysis-and-surprising-findings-aed4fee4305e

@dalias @Gina

Does Proton really support Trump? A deeper analysis (and surprising findings)

Recently, allegations surfaced on Reddit that Proton (or at least Proton’s CEO) supports Trump. Hillary Keverenge from Tech-Issues Today…

Medium
Show threadMorgan ⚧️2h ago

@troed @dalias @Gina he said exactly what I remembered him saying. Sure, from the article linked it seems he's maybe not an outright fascist but rather a liberal who has seen how horribly the Democrats are handling things and naively assumes that means the Republicans are going to represent the rest of politics, rather than seeing that both parties in the US work only for the best interests of capitalism and fascism

What do we call people who praised the Nazis for naive perceptions of progress?

Show threadTroed Sångberg2h ago

@raphaelmorgan

Nah, he didn't say anything of the sort. Try again, this time without lying outright. He mentioned _one specific appointment_. Not anything at all that has to do with republicans and democrats in general.

@dalias @Gina

Show threadMorgan ⚧️20m ago
@troed “10 years ago, Republicans were the party of big business and Dems stood for the little guys, but today the tables have completely turned.” what does that last part mean to you? Because to me it reads as "Republicans are now the party that stands for the little guys", a naive and fallacious leap from the true statement of "Democrats are (now*) in the pockets of big business"
*they always have been, but I'm glad he can at least see they are now