Hey, anyone else remember that unarmed Iranian warship that the US warcrimed the shit out of, or did I imagine that?
Hey, anyone else remember that unarmed Iranian warship that the US warcrimed the shit out of, or did I imagine that?
We tend to forget things really fast these days.
Here's a random reminder that nobody in the Panama files have gone to prison yet.
The journalist got murdered though
it happened on July 3, 1988

<p>On July 3, 1988, the USS Vincennes, a U.S. Navy guided missile cruiser, mistakenly shot down Iran Air Flight 655 over the Persian Gulf, resulting in the deaths of all 290 passengers and crew on board. The incident occurred during heightened tensions in the region amid military operations involving Iranian and Iraqi forces. The Vincennes was engaged in a conflict with Iranian gunboats when it misidentified the civilian aircraft, which had taken off from Bandar Abbas Airport on its way to Dubai. Despite receiving warnings and the identification of the flight as a commercial airliner, the Vincennes crew mistakenly regarded it as a potential military threat and launched missiles against it.</p> <p>The tragedy was compounded by a series of communication and operational failures, including confusion over aircraft identification and the ship's aggressive approach to engagement. The U.S. government initially characterized the incident as a defensive action but later faced scrutiny and legal challenges regarding its actions in Iranian territorial waters. In 1996, the U.S. compensated the victims' families, though it did not fully acknowledge its responsibility. The event remains a significant episode in U.S.-Iran relations, highlighting the complexities of military engagement and the tragic consequences of miscommunication in conflict situations.</p>
I even remember when we dropped two atomic bombs on North Carolina. And a few other things of that sort. Also the Israeli attack on USS Liberty, which at the time seemed memorable. Though to be fair, it was spying on them at the time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1961_Goldsboro_B-52_crash
But the latest string of war crimes do have a tendency to blur together. I'm thinking that bridge may have been a mistake, and Claude thought it was an elementary school.
@glc
They crashed a nuclear-armed 52 in Greenland, too:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1968_Thule_Air_Base_B-52_crash
Well, you know
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_military_nuclear_accidents
The thing about Goldsboro is that they actually dropped the bombs and one nearly went off. That might have caused some confusion.
But Arkhipov, and then Petrov, are the ones that most impressed me at the time - or more precisely, once they came out, at first only as rumors. Though neither case is counted as an accident, just a potentially civilization-ending decision narrowly averted (or evaded).
No harm, no foul.
the unarmed one that had gone to India for exercise and was coming back and they sank it?
That one?
@jmcrookston
The very one. The US was supposed to participate in the exercise, pulled out suddenly and then torpedoed the ship with full knowledge it was unarmed, killing at least 87 sailors and leaving the survivors to drown.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/indian-ocean-us-iran-ship-torpedo-9.7113910
Total war crime and if the event is not considered to have happened as part of the "war" (which was not voted on by Congress was it?), it must just be old fashioned mass murder.
Yes. I remember and no you didn't imagine it.
https://apnews.com/article/iran-warship-iris-dena-india-14916ad657e50f048bbeb42b38224ecb

Officials in New Delhi say that an Iranian warship that was sunk by a U.S. submarine near Sri Lanka had participated in naval exercises hosted by India before heading out into international waters in the Indian Ocean on its way home. The sinking on Wednesday underscored the spread of the U.S.-Israeli war with Iran. It also ignited a debate in India about maritime security in the Indian Ocean — a region where New Delhi maintains a significant naval presence. The Indian government has not yet publicly commented on the incident but opposition leaders questioned its lack of response. A well-known Indian diplomat said India has a “moral” responsibility to speak up.