Look this isn’t at all a defense of slop code, but it has me thinking — how much does code quality matter, and why?

It’s maintenance, right? We care about readability because we know we’ll have to make changes, fix bugs, etc.

But so … imagine a codebase that’s magically bug-free and feature-complete. (I’m aware this is a strawman - that’s the point, it’s a thought experiment.) Does it matter if this codebase is well-written? I’m not sure it does! (1/5)

@jacob "If the roof stays up and the floor is dry, does the build quality of my house matter?"

Yes. Yes, it does.

@meejah Why? Say more!

@jacob The view from the top of the mountain is great -- but it feels better (more "accomplishment") if you get there on foot instead of a chair-lift or helicopter.

I at least put non-zero value on "the process" and the methods used. I don't necessarily have a great way to articulate this feeling right now.

In climbing, one may "climb a climb" on toprope, on lead or even free-soloing. These come with different intrinsic rewards, even if the end-point is the same ("alive, and on top").

@meejah See, I don’t disagree with you — but also you gotta be careful because the metaphor cuts both ways. Is someone who can’t walk less deserving of seeing a summit? I spend a ton of time in the wilderness doing stupidly viscerally feel the importance of “earning it” — but also know how much privilege plays a role. Difficulty and accessibility are opposed. Would it be a bad thing if non-programmers could build programs? Hell no! (Are LLMs the right tool to solve that problem? Also hell no!)

@jacob Yes, there's no absolute scale here. Someone finishing something important to them is no less "deserving" of feeling accomplishment.

I'm not sure why I went to "physical" examples, but this applies to lots of areas. I should have kept it about 'craft' (in the widest possible sense) I guess

I do believe that people will feel _less_ "accomplishment" if the thing wasn't "hard" (for them!) though. (That is, climbing the stairs can be just as much an accomplishment as any mountain)

@meejah Yeah totally. There’s also like a multitude of motivations, right? Sometimes I build a table by hand because woodworking is enjoyable and the craft is important. Sometimes I just need a place to put my drink and IKEA is fine. Sometimes I write code because coding is enjoyable and craftsmanship matters. Sometimes I just need a damn website so people know how to get to the wedding.