All the devs saying that Anthropic’s code quality is “normal” are telling on themselves and everybody they’ve worked with

(Also supports what many have been saying about software quality being a crisis that precedes LLMs, but that’s another story)

@baldur the software crisis is definitely what enabled vibe coding, I feel.

When making software was an artisan process, it was hard for corporations to scale it and treat programmers like cogs in a machine.

So they've been trying more and more to fit software development into a neat mold, essentially dumbing down the process, to the point where making an app has become "just slap together some libraries and hey presto".

That has 100% laid the foundation for LLM-generated code, I feel.

@Tijn @baldur And too many people got sold at one point or another that "anyone can code."
@raffaella @Tijn @baldur anyone *can* code, given the right training. But not everyone *wants* to code. And the people who do it, only because they want a paycheck, and not because they want to code, were the start of this decline.
@hyc @raffaella @Tijn @baldur anyone _can_ code, whether they choose to do so for passion or for money, because it's a skill. Also a job is a job, no need to frame coding as something "super special that only special people should do".
On the other hand, governments cutting funds for arts, humanities and social sciences and telling that "the future is code" - that's what put many people in the position where they're doing jobs far removed from their innate curiosities. And grifters, well, they can be found in every lucrative field.

@hostia @hyc @raffaella @baldur > Also a job is a job, no need to frame coding as something "super special that only special people should do".

I agree coding shouldn't be regarded as some kind of special job only special people can or should be doing.

But that being said, I hope everyone cares about the job they're doing, and try to understand how and why they're doing it the way they are, regardless of what the actual job is!

@hyc @raffaella @Tijn @baldur

That "anyone" looks pretty elitist to me as I care for a blind 91 year old with dementia and severe recall deficits.