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Trump officials prepping for ‘nightmare scenario’ at gas pumps: reports

https://lemmy.world/post/45052585

Trump officials prepping for ‘nightmare scenario’ at gas pumps: reports - Lemmy.World

White House officials are bracing for oil prices to surge past the $150-a-barrel mark as the Iran war stretches into its second month and the Strait of Hormuz remains largely closed, according to a new report. In recent weeks, the average cost of a barrel of crude has hovered around $100, a figure that the Trump administration now sees as the new “baseline,” though a potential spike to $200 hasn’t been ruled out, a source familiar with the matter told Politico. As a result, officials have entered “all hands on deck” mode, urgently evaluating options to tame soaring oil prices — which pushed gas above $4 a gallon this week and risks inflating costs across the broader economy.

givesomefucks 22h ago

I really want to see Iran say they’ll reopen it only after trump is personally handed over to stand trial for his war crimes…

It will never work, but it’ll fracture his support and more importantly he’ll be ome convinced it’s gonna happen and start turning on his own cronies even if they’re loyal.

skulblaka 21h ago

KC_Royalz 20h ago

Except it’s going to devastate a lot of people financially who don’t deserve it. So ireally don’t find it funny.

But if gas hits that high it will devastate rural areas and the people who voted for this

Serinus 17h ago

30% of the American public voted for these grifting idiots, not just the president, but his enablers too. This slightly disproportionately affects rural areas. We should be getting off of gas and investing in green energy anyway.

I choose to laugh. It’s better than what the people of Iran got out of it.

Man, I wonder if a better president would have come up with some kind of treaty to prevent Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons.

MajinBlayze 11h ago

How many times has iran been attacked for being two weeks away from nuclear weapons in the past 50 years?

What are the chances these are all true?

humanspiral 6h ago

in last 40 years, there were 2000 weeks. 1998/2000 or 99.9% of weeks this statement was proven false.

On March 20, he fumed that NATO allies have refused to help secure the strait, but he later appeared unconcerned. “At a certain point it will open itself,” he said.

I’d say that that sounds promising for EV manufacturers.

W98BSoD 21h ago

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As of recent estimates, there are about 160,000 gas stations across the United States.

Like, people are going to have to be putting them on in layers or something. I don’t think that there are enough gasoline pumps.

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protist 20h ago

The best part is that even if everything in the Strait were to return to normal tomorrow, the oil price shock is just barely beginning to filter through the system, so there’s absolutely nothing Trump can do to stop what he caused.

empireOfLove2 19h ago

Oh yeah. Global logistics with slow-boat tankers are scheduled multiple months in advance to keep the machine flowing. With every single route now completely thrown awry, there’s no going back for at least a year.

FUCK EVERYONE BUY TOILET PAPER

HootinNHollerin 18h ago

Bidet babay

Avid Amoeba 17h ago

You had me at FUCK EVERYONE

BarneyPiccolo 17h ago

The Sociopathic Oligarchs see the Dow as the leading indicator of the economy, and never notice gas prices.

But to the average American, the price of GAS is the leading economic indicator, and that number psychologically symbolizes the health of the economy in their minds. That number is displayed on every corner in the country, and every American passes it many times a day, driving it into their skulls.

This is NOT good for MAGA, and a reckoning is coming. MAGA is feral, and when they feel cornered, wounded, and scared, they will strike out ferociously. It’s going to get uglier before it gets better.

hitmyspot 17h ago

Good, let the hate flow through you.

BarneyPiccolo 9h ago

I’m with you. You’re getting downvotes, but not from me. This is no time to be polite.

BygoneNeutrino 17h ago

… I’ve never met a “MAGA” in real life. I know a bunch of Republicans, but not the stereotype obsessed over on social media. It’s reminiscent of the McArthy era and communism. Everyone talked about communists all day, every day, but they were sooo good at blending in that nobody saw them.

What is MAGA even refer to? People who don’t think the benefits from excessive immigration outweigh the negatives? People who are annoyed with the people online ranting about obscure gender issues? If this were the case, then a lot of the Democrats I know are apparently MAGA.

billybob 17h ago

They tend to have a blind devotion to Donald Trump. By that I mean they change their opinions to match his actions. Every republican I know cared about the Epstein files, but now that Trump has expressed annoyance whenever they are brought they no longer care if they are released and even act annoyed if you bring it up. They viewed Joe Biden as evil and that he was the main cause for high gas prices, but now that gas prices are going up under Trump they understand the president doesn’t cause the prices to go up. The cost of healthcare, childcare, grocery’s, and housing were all things they cared about when Biden was president, but now that prices are going up and not down they no longer care. It’s not necessarily a personality, while I do feel a lot of them do share similar traits. What you are looking for is a person that is able to think however Donald Trump wants them to. That’s what makes a MAGA. It’s someone who will never criticize Trump they will just change their opinions. They only care about what Trump wants them to at the time.

BarneyPiccolo 10h ago

Good post. Too bad you wasted it on a guy who doesn’t know what a MAGA is. I suspect he won’t understand even after reading it.

BarneyPiccolo 10h ago

You can’t find MAGAs? I suspect that if you looked in the mirror, you’d see one.

Fluffy Kitty Cat 10h ago

The fact that gasoline has giant signs telling you how much it costs is very symbolic of America as a Petro state. Because of that one thing alone it’s the only products where every American can tell you exactly how much it costs, and specifically how much it costs in their area more so than nationwide. Because of credit cards most people couldn’t tell you the price of other Essentials off the top of their head like a gallon of milk or a loaf of bread but gasoline? It’s $5.50 at the station down the road

BarneyPiccolo 9h ago

I paid $2.74 on the day the bombing started. It went up to $4.29 yesterday.

Most working Americans couldn’t tell you where the Dow is today, but every Sociopathic Oligarch knows it by the hour. But EVERY American knows the price of gas, and they’re super pissed about it.

TigerAce 17h ago

The only big difference between Adolf Hitler and Donald Trump is that Hitler didn’t sexually abuse children.

Comparisons:

never drinks alcohol
tariff war which is worst for themselves
oil shortages by bad planning
declaring wars
stealing Nobel peace prize (was Goebbles, but whatever)
fucking up the economy
started a world war
is senile AF
blames minorities for everything
wants to get rid of minorities by any means necessary
doesn’t care about rules or laws, human rights or war crimes
wants to build megalomaniac buildings
only recognizes self appointed judges
builds a close circle of radicalized idiots around him who can’t say no to him
empoweres criminal enterprises, surrounds himself with and protects criminals, steals from the poor, creates a regime enriching itself illegally

Should I continue?

Lushed_Lungfish 11h ago

I believe Hitler had a thing for his underage niece.

samus12345 5h ago

Hitler death: 4/30/45

Trump birth: 6/14/46

Certainly a case to be made for reincarnation.

TigerAce 3h ago

Hitler’s bday is also same as Napoleon’s.

samus12345 3h ago

No, it isn’t. Hitler’s is 4/20 and Napoleon’s is 8/15.

It honestly makes me sick that this appears to be the line for most Americans. Fuck this country.

dan1101 10h ago

The only thing that keeps most people complacent is they can manage to scrape by with their meager salary buying crappy goods. Take that away and Americans might get more revolutionary.

Isn’t the US a net exporter of oil. Can someone explain to me why this wouldn’t benefit them? Sell oil an increased cost with increased demand globally, cover costs at home with supplying the locally refined stuff for the population.

Anyone more in the know able to explain the gaps in my understanding?

humanspiral 7h ago

The more exports of US oil/lng the higher the price for Americans. It’s not as though oligarchy pays taxes, so when you say America makes money, there is no trickle down to Americans.

humanspiral 8h ago

West coast will run out of jet fuel in 2-3 weeks. US politics are so hateful, Texas will likely refuse to ship any by truck to say that this is “woke green policies” fault.

Per an adjacent discussion on NPR, California is considered a “petrol-island”. Conventional shipping over land is both difficult and inefficient because they’re tucked on the other side of a mountain chain. Coming from Texas, willing or not, seems to have it’s own additional expense.

humanspiral 2h ago

Difficult sure. Would you prefer that it is impossible to fly to California, difficult? Shouldn’t be. Cost of Jet fuel from GCC would make the difficult trip from Texas profitable.

humanspiral 8h ago

One idiotic move administration has made is to increase ethanol content of gasoline. Ethanol is corn based in US. Cost of corn is fertilizer based. The futures price of corn has only increased about 10%, while fertilizer costs are up 100%, and so no logical reason to plant corn that has been losing money for farmers for last 5 years.

Easiest plan to bring down energy prices would be to import chinese solar tariff free, to use on ethanol corn fields in Nebraska. Leaving room for Corn between panel rows when it is viable to grow corn for food again. There’s even a path towards 0 cost electricity for 24/7 datacenters or other loads. lemmy.ca/post/59615557?scrollToComments=true

A datacenter in Nebraska can cost 0 in electricity costs if hydrogen can be sold for $2/kg. Free money after 25 years. Chinese cost renewables + 35% for US premium labour. no tariffs. - Lemmy.ca

Includes 1% O&M costs, 5% financing “mortgage” fully paid back in 25 years. # Project Summary: Nebraska “Zero-Cost” 1 kW Baseload Datacenter This model establishes a net-zero electricity cost for a 1 kW continuous datacenter load in Nebraska. It utilizes a Hybrid CapEx Strategy (Chinese hardware + 35% Western Premium) and is financed at a 5% interest rate. ## 1. Core System Configuration * Solar Array: 53 kW DC - Sized to generate sufficient annual H2 revenue to offset all debt. * LFP Battery: 150 kWh - Sized for 24-hour summer H2 operation (130 kWh nightly discharge). * Electrolyzer: 12 kW - High-utilization unit for summer surplus conversion. * Baseload Load: 1 kW - Constant 24/7/365 datacenter power requirement. ## 2. Financial & Cost Assumptions * Financing: 5% annual interest rate over a 25-year amortization term. * Western Premium: A 35% markup on all base Chinese hardware costs to cover logistics, U.S. import duties, and Nebraska-based labor and permitting. * Hardware Base Pricing (Pre-Premium): * Solar Panels: $0.35/Watt * LFP Batteries: $80/kWh * Electrolyzer + BoS: $500/kW * Annual O&M: 1% of total CapEx per year for maintenance and insurance. ## 3. Operational & Environmental Assumptions * Location: Nebraska, USA (~41°N Latitude). * Solar Yield: 1,400 kWh/year per 1 kW of installed solar. * Peak Sun Hours (PSH): * Summer Max (June 21): 7.5 PSH. * Winter Average (Dec/Jan): 1.9 PSH. * H2 Efficiency: 50 kWh per 1 kg of Hydrogen produced. * Water Feedstock: ~9 litres of deionized water per 1 kg of H2. * Byproducts: Oxygen (O2) is vented; no revenue or compression costs included. ## 4. Economic Performance (The “Zero-Cost” Result) * Total System CapEx: $49,316 * Annual Expenses (Debt + O&M): $3,989 * Annual H2 Yield: ~2,000 kg * Required H2 Sale Price: $2.00/kg to achieve breakeven. * Net Cost of Electricity: $0.00 / kWh (fully subsidized by H2 sales). ## 5. Seasonal & Winter Analysis ### Summer Max (June 21) * System achieves 24-hour saturation of the 12 kW electrolyzer. * Total Daily Production: ~397 kWh. ### Winter Average (Dec/Jan) * Average Daily Production: 100.7 kWh. * Daily Baseload Demand: 24.0 kWh. * Average Winter Surplus: 76.7 kWh/day (used for H2 or sold). ### Resiliency (Dark Day Buffer) * The 150 kWh battery can sustain the 1 kW load for ~6 days of 0% solar production. * Deficit Strategy: Any deficit beyond 6 days is covered by Employee BEVs at a payout of 20¢/kWh.

Your linked AI slop post has a LOT of assumptions and it’s kinda expensive. If the total system capex is 50k for 1 kW load, it’ll be 500 million for a modern 10MW data center. Then covering the deficit off employee BEVs for peanuts a kWh: That assumes you have enough employees for that and that they’re willing to wear their batteries for this.

But yes, the whole ethanol requirement is stupid for a country that has its own oil anyway

humanspiral 6h ago

You’re right about cost assumptions of renewables. Like I said, tariff free Chinese costs + 30% local premium results in 0 electricity costs if $2/kg hydrogen revenue. Higher costs would still pay off at 10c/kwh from datacenter/other sales.

wonderingwanderer 2h ago

Oh hey, maybe if they didn’t dismantle all the green energy and EV initiatives then the impacts would be mitigated a little bit…

Funny how that works…

Corkyskog 2h ago

Literally couldn’t be doing anything different to help Russia more.

Dionysus 1h ago

Just as they planned.

They’re gonna nationalize our oil aren’t they? Required sale to the government at a set rate and then government will turn around and sell into the domestic and international markets to balance prices at our pumps.

It’s about the only option other than stop bombing Iran and that’s not happening.

Corkyskog 2h ago

That would be hilarious actually

Corkyskog 2h ago

TIL oil is only half the input cost of making gas.

Crude oil is the main ingredient in gasoline — accounting for roughly half the cost of a gallon of gas — so when oil prices rise, gas prices typically follows suit.