So apparently today the thing that has me screaming is living in a society built on hurting kids.

Not just child sexual abuse.

Every kind of harm & exploitation.

Why am I not having kids? Well, one reason is that I feel like there are plenty of kids in the world *already* for me to worry about, & there will always be more.

Maybe this is part of what upsets the right wing folks when childless people are concerned about the welfare of kids.

You're not supposed to worry about "other people's kids" (otherwise known as human beings with their own rights).

At BEST you're only supposed to worry about your kids, but even then, you're supposed to worry about competing for things, not their fucking well-being as individuals.

You're not supposed to look at a child & see a person. You're supposed to see *property*.

A childless adult concerned about the rights & needs of children has no "skin in the game" in their minds. If you *aren't* a child, & you don't have children of your own, then how does it affect you if children are suffering?

It does actually affect me in a number of ways, but even if it didn't, what the fuck? Is the question they are asking "why do you care about human beings?" or is it "why do you think children are human beings?"

Trick question! It's both.

But goddamn. Hurting kids is just so fucking NORMAL in our world, & it has to stop.

We don't need age verification online (a surveillance ploy). We need to stop normalizing the abuse & exploitation of children in every area of life & culture.

Keeping a kid off the Internet doesn't fucking protect them from the predatory adults around them. In fact, it may make them more vulnerable than ever.

I mean, I love my parents & I know they have always loved me, so how tf were they so convinced that they needed to *"break my will"* as a child?

Because breaking a child's will is just what you do, that's why! You break them down. You teach them their "no" means nothing. You teach them they aren't even allowed to say "no". You punish every act of independence & forbid their anger. You demand that they always obey & "respect" adults without question.

You know, normal, healthy shit.

@artemis

I'm sorry that this happened to you. or to any kid. It wasn't my experience. And I made sure it wasn't my kids experience. I consciously constantly give my kids the agency that was appropriate to their developmental level. Interestingly I also got heavily into dog "training" methods that also are all about the dog's agency. You can kind of look at the two main dog "training" methods and see that raising kids mirrors those two ideas. I do scare quotes around "training"

@artemis

Because the view of those in the positive reinforcement + agency side is really that it's more like dog relationship building. Yes there's learning going on, but it's really important that the dog *trusts* you and wants to be with you.

Same for kids really. And broken in the same ways for dogs and kids. The whole "breaking down" and brainwashing and creating learned helplessness thing is right there in the dog training manuals for the other side.

@artemis

In fact, it'd be a great thing to write an explicitly Anarchist dog training manual, and teach people about human Anarchy ideas through dog training.

@dlakelan @artemis

The difference is that you're raising a dog, not training them. Same with kids. You have to raise them as independent creatures capable of making positive choices on their own.

I like the idea, but I think "Raising Dogs" is a better phrase than dog training.

@CorvidCrone
You gotta meet people where they are though. when they BUY the book they'll be looking for dog training, after they read the book, they'll think of it differently.
@artemis