Jon Worth2d ago
Renfe has given up trying to run trains to Paris, I presume concluding (correctly imho) that the Talgo 106 series isn’t up to the task www.eldiario.es/economia/ren... Trains to Lyon and Marseille will continue #CrossBorderRail

Renfe tira la toalla en Franci...
Renfe tira la toalla en Francia y aparca su proyecto de alta velocidad a París ante las trabas para operar sus trenes

Tanto la empresa española como el ministro de Transportes, Óscar Puente, han reclamado en varias ocasiones "reciprocidad", dado que España ha abierto las puertas al operador público francés, Ouigo

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Where this leaves Le Train - the French startup that wants to order the same type - is anyone’s guess As for Renfe: I assume once the 350km/h trains it is now tendering will run, it can theoretically use a few of those internationally But the Talgo 106 has been a hellish bad choice
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Show threadpglux.bsky.social1d ago
Those 30-40 350km/h trainsets which Renfe is procuring will be for 🇪🇦 internal operations. No mention whatsoever of operations into 🇫🇷🇵🇹. There's enough potential on Madrid - Barcelona to concentrate the whole of that new fleet there. Presumably, S-103s will focus on Madrid - Seville/Malaga. 🔜
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S-100s will be phased out from 2029 to 2032. Some may soon run on Avant (Madrid Ch - Valladolid CG, Madrid PdA - Ciudad Real) as pre-retirement, so as to release S-104/114s to other routes (Valencia - Almeria). Once S-107s are all in service. S-102/112s will run on lower-demand AVE routes. 🔜
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The decision by Renfe to ditch S-106F certification in 🇫🇷 is indeed bad news for Le Train, unless Talgo decides to pursue it on its own. 4 years of time and engineering resources wasted. 🤬🤬🤬 Admittedly, 🇫🇷 is not an easy market for step into, owing to regulatory golden-plating. 🔜
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But that shouldn't be the easy excuse to clear Renfe with it's own failures. Renfe has no spare stock to operate anything in 🇫🇷 beyond the current symbolic services to Lyons and Marseilles. Demand on its home market is too strong for the current AVE fleet. Rather than whine about 🇫🇷 misery, 🔜
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Oscar Puente 'd better help Renfe get those withdrawn 13 ICE3M ex-DB. It's the only way which Renfe can increase its HSR fleet very quickly. And yes, that should be the absolute priority at Renfe. EIS of those 30-40 new 350km/h is still a long way off. 🔙