If you're a cis man, what does masculinity mean to you?

If you're a cis woman, what does femininity mean to you?

Have you ever taken the time to sit down and carefully ask yourself that question, and listen to yourself about it?

@munin cis man
though I do have no idea what masculinity means to me. If it's the stereotypes from (social) media, then I'm certainly not masculine

@thehole

Perhaps think about what you consider to be masculinity and whether that fits what you feel about yourself.

@munin ah, I did in the past and came to no conclusion, really.
At least nothing that would fit me, personally.

@thehole

You might consider looking at 'agender' as an option; it's a pretty neat one.

@munin ah yes, thought about whether cis describes me and didn't come to a conclusion either 😅

@thehole

Honestly, I've met a lot of people who just aren't attached to their notional gender and who kinda dig the "agender" "I'm opting out of this BS" option lol

@munin haha, fair enough.

When did you first come to think about your gender, if I may ask?

@thehole

'roundabouts 2020, my partner came back from a pilgrimage and shortly after told me they were nonbinary, which - ofc I supported them, but it got me thinking "well shit, what does that mean for me?"

And things kinda progressed from there.

@munin Whenever I've reflected on those terms I'm disappointed to think about how much of their societal representation imprinted on us is the results of layering decades of commercial marketing. Everyone has elements of their own takes on the impact of those terms, but I always circle back to how did they get there rather than anything intrinsic about those aspects.

@munin as a cis dude the only kind of "masculinity' I've thought about is the toxic kind. And how to actively avoid it. I bet if I suddenly woke up as a woman though I would think about it a lot more.

Its one of those things that's a bigger deal when there's a mismatch between expectations than reality.

it means clothes are expected to have pockets, and the shirt buttons are on the right-hand side. these are the only consistent elements of the experience as far as I've been able to tell

oh and clothing sizes are vaguely related to actual measurements, instead of assigned at random
Cis man here. It means being able to grow a beard and piss standing up without getting your clothes splashed with urine. It might also mean doing the physical labor when others around you are feminine.
@munin so much of what i understand about my own (cis) masculinity is thanks to my trans masc brothers and siblings who had to construct / negotiate theirs independently of society's support structures.
@munin it was only through them, and a few other rare positive examplars in my life, that i was able to reimagine "being a man" in a way that felt affirmative and joyful and good for myself and for the world, instead of the terrifying violent prison of insecurity and domination most men (and the rest of humanity, by association) are raised in.
@munin I have. Generally masculinity means working on things, getting dirty, lifting heavy stuff, and reaching things in high places. To be clear: I don't think these are all the dominion of cis men. It's just what I think of.