JPMar 30
futures i still believe are possible:
- civilization no longer depends on fossil fuels
- food, housing, physical and mental healthcare for all
- no billionaires
- full reparations to the colonized and the enslaved
- computing without big tech
- an internet without advertising
- total liberation for gender nonconforming people
Show threadMark T. Tomczak

@jplebreton I still need to figure out who pays for the Internet without advertising.

Not impossible, but unclear how to get there.

Patronage could work, but (a) that makes content most reflective of the desires of the patrons and (b) no billionaires bumps up against that goal (though not incompatibly; a thousand millionaire patrons are quite possible, and probably reflect the needs of the people, better than one billionaire patron).

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Show threadsiderealMar 30
@mark @jplebreton over 50% of all Internet users right now are using adblocking software. Kinda a hot take but internet advertising appears to be to be very overvalued, and not very useful or profitable.
Show threadMidgePhotoMar 30

@mark @jplebreton
Do you think advertising is an efficient or effective method of paying?

Do you not pay a network fee to the organisation maintain8ng your connection?

Show threadMark T. TomczakMar 30

@Photo55 @jplebreton Advertising allows people with no money to access the site.

I pay a network fee, but homeless people using the library don't. Any solutions will have to account for whether they are still accommodated or are excluded.

Show threadMidgePhotoMar 30
@mark @jplebreton
You think the Library (a public service funded by the comm7nity and country here) does not pay a fee for the network use?
Maybe the books on the shelves arrived there free of charge?
Show threadMidgePhotoMar 30
(yes, the fees for the library's network service are notional or rolled up in the network the local council funds and provides across it's services, rather than being collected monthly from the chief librarian. )
Show threadMark T. TomczakMar 30

@Photo55 @jplebreton They obviously do. The patrons do not, including (especially) the homeless ones.

If the library also has to pay for every website accessed, I doubt it could afford to continue to offer the service. Or it would have to constrain the sites accessible.

Show threadMidgePhotoMar 30

@mark @jplebreton
Ted Nelson worked for a long time on a network of micro payments.
In the event it has not been adopted, but with the key being "micro" don't assume it would be overall more expensive.

Much of the Web is people who want to tell people something. Absent adverts it isn't very expensive to do that, and they each have a reason to do so, so would they stop because there were no adverts? Those who would: better without, thanks.

On average, library users live here. Thus, pay.