Okay, help: what's a good compromise for a whiteboard for one-off use in a lecture? I want to collect student ideas, group them together and talk them through interactively while showing the whiteboard on a screen. Nothing more.

For a long time I would have used Flinga Whiteboard (https://flinga.fi/) but my employer stopped paying for it. They do pay for Miro but it's horrendously complicated to use, and a steep learning curve for a one-off activation exercise in class.

Is there something simple, freely available (maybe - ideally - open source) that is at the Flinga end of complexity rather than Miro?

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@davidjamesweir We've been making do with Presemo that U of Helsinki has. Clunky and ugly, but enough for collecting ideas and facilitating discussion.

@esko Thanks - I also have used Presemo many times over the years, in fact I got into using it before I started using Flinga. But I like being able to solicit unstructured input and then cluster them together into related topics, which a whiteboard-style tool lets you do but Presemo doesn't.

I'm still a bit confused by the mass panic that swept through Finnish higher education institutions; Flinga is still up, it still exists, and meanwhile we're forking out loads of money for an enterprise license for Miro which I find hard to use (and which has the whole university's whiteboards in a single team, which is unwieldy), and Viima, which is 8 euros a seat.

I'd rather they spend money on recreating a Flinga clone or buying the rights to open-source Flinga – if it really is unsupported these days. If all the users in Finnish academia got together, we could easily build a tool with equivalent functionality.