Chris Jags1d ago

I hate it when people are like "we shouldn't be doing space exploration, we should be feeding/helping our people".

We could absolutely be doing BOTH. There's no reason we couldn't help everyone AND do cool scientific exploration.

First, of course, we'd have to stop warring with each other and giving all our money to a tiny handful of psychopaths.

Show threadĞÖKÜ👻👻™1d ago
@ChrisJagged big waste of money
Show threadpagangod (he/him)
@GOKUSHRM @ChrisJagged If none of the technologies invented in large part for the space program matter to you, then yeah, say fuck it. But that means I'll be asking for your smart phone back, as well as your other personal computers. Also your running shoes.
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Show threadĞÖKÜ👻👻™7h ago
@pagangod @ChrisJagged I don't have any pc or laptop... And as a phone that's also not relative in current environment because of so many restrictions from vendors & Google & apple. Ur phone is not ur phone according to big tech companies.. I'm Using a 5 year old phone & soon ll switch over to old keypad phone for much better life. Do you really think that people's requirements are smart phone instead of healthy food clean water better education & heath? 😅
Show threadĞÖKÜ👻👻™7h ago
@pagangod @ChrisJagged and for running shoe, no matter if it's 3$ or 300$, they all work same 😂you don't need space projects to make shoes.
Show threadpagangod (he/him)7h ago
@GOKUSHRM @ChrisJagged Well, actually, the foam tech in even cheap shoes is part of that invention I think. As is the 5 year old phone you are talking about. You would have to go back to a 1960s land-line with a dial to avoid it. All results of 1960-1970s developments associated with the space program. AND we can easily feed everybody and a bunch of other stuff if we just took the $ that the techbro's are spending on AI and repurposed it.
There was a graph about that elsewhere on Masto. I think I responded to it, so I might be able find it.
Show threadĞÖKÜ👻👻™7h ago
@pagangod @ChrisJagged yes we can feed but still not getting it. And we still using landline phone in many countries in home in office. The smartphone we talking only gives us social media to consume tech bro products. That's it... I can talk with anyone over a keypad phone or msg them. I still have Nokia 1100 and we using it at home.
Show threadpagangod (he/him)7h ago
@GOKUSHRM @ChrisJagged https://mastodon.social/@datawrapper/116296002894711984
Show threadĞÖKÜ👻👻™7h ago
@pagangod @ChrisJagged again I'm asking why we need to invest i'tn AI or space programs when humans need food water eduction health house.., we wasting so much money. I'm not against technology or invention. I'm against when technology becomes bigger thn human needs
Show threadpagangod (he/him)5h ago
@GOKUSHRM @ChrisJagged Again: The Nokia you're talking about, and whatever your are Mastodon-ing on are products of the space program / space race.
Probably some of the building materials in your home are products of those projects.
I would agree with you on AI. I don't think it will generate significant enough innovation to justify the huge $ and environmental costs. That money would be much better spent on basic needs. Combine that with taxing and repurposing the wealth from a few thousand billionaires, and funding all the essential stuff is easy. Musk literally offered to end world hunger by providing the $ needed, and then backed out when the UN said they'd be happy to accept.
Show threadĞÖKÜ👻👻™5h ago
@pagangod @ChrisJagged not a single billionaire want to remove hunger issue. They only want to create a good image between community to sell their stuffs. & u don't need costly big screen phone to use Mastodon, a keypad phone able to run Mastodon with internet connection.
Show threadpagangod (he/him)5h ago
@GOKUSHRM @ChrisJagged
To counter-argue myself:
It may be that stuff like the US return to the moon (Artemis project) will not really be innovative enough to justify the $. It might be a "sequel," a technological re-run.
Show threadĞÖKÜ👻👻™4h ago
@pagangod @ChrisJagged a normal person doesn't care about moon or space programs. They only care basic things like cheap house for family. Cheap electricity, health food medicine at reasonable price.. Low cost education. 70%of world population are normal people's they don't want to go on moon or in space.. The price of daily using stuffs rising year by year just because of these programs that's gonna do nothing new in people's life. Many programs are even based on lies to put heavy taxes.