Because we can't just have a nice thing and let it be that, Weir has to take a shit on #StarTrek because his pitch was rejected...?

Come on, man. I got my issues with the various shows to various degrees, but this just sounds childish.

Perhaps in context it wasn't as bad as it sounds, but honestly I'm just tired, man.

> "...and here’s another thing: I pitched a Star Trek show to Paramount and I was in Zoom with the showrunners with all the shows and spent a lot of time talking to [executive producer Alex Kurtzman]. I don’t like a lot of the new Trek. He, as a person, is a really nice guy. But at the same time, those shows are shit. He is a nice guy. But they didn’t accept my pitch so, you know, fuck ’em.”

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/project-hail-mary-author-andy-weir-paramount-star-trek-1236549532/

#ProjectHailMary

‘Project Hail Mary’ Author Andy Weir Says Paramount Rejected His ‘Star Trek’ Pitch: Their “Shows Are Sh**”

The author of the blockbuster film says Paramount turned down his 'Star Trek' idea and suggested that modern 'Trek' shows have lost their way.

The Hollywood Reporter
@fortyseven kurtzman trek is trash though, minus prodigy and lower decks

@firewyre I can't take a blanket view like that, myself. The current era live-action stuff has it's highs and lows, for me.

For instance, there's a lot I dislike about Discovery, but I feel like every season got a little better. It too far too long to really find it's legs, and by then it was too late. (The finale with the '10-C' actually ended up being some of my favorite Trek in a long time, much to my shock.)

While I largely loath the series, but I can cherry-pick moments from Picard, especially S3 that were at least interesting.

But, strangely, all of the animated shows were largely pretty satisfying to me. And those were the two I had the least faith in going into them. So grateful for them. 😅

@firewyre @fortyseven love lower decks. Also love your username
@owl thanks friend, my son is obsessed with owls :)

@firewyre @fortyseven

Strong disagree. Star Trek Academy is gold. 🤩

@billiglarper @firewyre Aye, it was far, far better than I was expecting, going into it.

@fortyseven @firewyre

I was quite positive I would like it after watching the trailers. And ST Academy more than delivered. My girlfriend and I had a blast. (And not only that, I would argue it was objectively really well done.)

And it's perfectly fine to not like it. But why can't grown-up men just say "This isn't my cup of tea" and move on?

All the hate and toxicity in some sci-fi fandoms is just so mindblowingly ugly. Star Wars especially. But Star Trek and 40k also have jerks.

@fortyseven and nothing of value was lost. Are any of the new shows worth watching? I loved the lower decks

@owl @fortyseven

Everything but Section 31 was worth watching in the end. Disco was rough to start with but by Season 3 it got decent and Season 5 was outstanding.

Prodigy is amazing from start to finish.

Academy is rough ep1 and then gets better every single episode.

Picard is schizophrenic because of producer changes (Matalas had no intention of telling the story Chabon started, and had to use season 2 to fridge/kill all the new characters Chabon introduced) but Seasons 1 and 3 were decent.

SNW is fun but it doesn't take enough challenges on and is overall very *safe* which is what got Trek cancelled to start with.

@lockelyfox @fortyseven thanks for the info. Might give prodigy a Watch tonight
@owl @lockelyfox Prodigy is REALLY great. One caveat: Dal is kind of a jerk at first, but he has a rather satisfying arc as the series progresses. It's intentional. ;)

@lockelyfox @owl This is pretty much my read of it all, too.

Surprisingly, the animated shows are the ones that didn't let me down in some way. Both quite satisfying in different ways.

For me:

- Discovery: it initially tried to be it's own thing while also claiming to be canon. This caused a lot of blow-back. But with each season they made changes to bring it more in line, and then eventually made one BIG change that let them finally be themselves. The show wears it's heart on it's sleeve, often criticized for how much emotion is involved, and the frequent tears. They aren't wrong, but it's also just earnest as hell. By the time they finally found a good groove, IMHO, it was too late and it was forced to end. Womp, womp.

- Picard: I had huge hopes for this, but 'schizophrenic' is a good description. There were some good ideas in here, but the writing struggled to bring it together. The second season was, up until Section 31, my least liked season of Trek... ever. It was like someone threw a shitload of Trek ideas and references into a blender. Still, I can cherry pick individual good moments.

- Picard S3: it's different enough to be considered it's own show. Think of it as one big 10-hour TNG movie. IN THE MOMENT it was fucking amazing, though the further out we get the more critical I am of it. But those are spoiler-laced story criticisms, of which I would never rob anyone. It's a good time while you're engaged with it, at least. ;)

- Strange New Worlds: sprang from S2 of Discovery as a spin-off, great cast, quite a few decent episodes. Closest we've ever gotten to a modern revival of TOS on the small screen. The most recent season had some real questionable writing choices, though, but YMMV.

- Starfleet Academy: it's been floated for decades, but I've never once been compelled by the concept. And I'm not really interested in 32nd century Trek. (Gimmie the late 2300s!) BUT... it ended up being a surprisingly positive, optimistic series with a terrific cast. It's first season just might be one of the strongest... ever? Unfortunately it's become a favorite target of right-wing weirdos, tanking it's reputational undeservedly.

- Lower Decks: incredibly funny writing, a terrific voice cast. The scrappy crew quickly feel like family. This is another show I expected the worst from, but it was exactly the opposite. I love this show. And if a genie let me sacrifice the entire run of Picard for another season, I would hesitate for maybe one or two seconds before pulling the trigger. My only criticism is that maybe it leans a bit too hard on nostalgia and references, but it's basically baked into the premise, so I can't fault it for doing it's job. ;)

- Prodigy: this one was a big mystery for a while. A CG series on Nickelodeon aimed at kids? Probably not for me. And I was completely wrong. Not only is Prodigy really good, with a great cast of characters and an interesting premise, but I'm thrilled that it will be a gateway for new fans to the series, while also being a great show in it's own right. (Spoiler: S2 is practically an 8th season of Voyager, and it's _incredible_.)

- Section 31: no.

So yeah, I can't say Trek hasn't been trying. And my god, it all looks REALLY good. High production values have never been a concern. For me, the criticisms have largely stemmed from the writing and the emphasis on nostalgia.

I bitch a lot, but I'm having a good time, in any event. 😉

@fortyseven @lockelyfox Thanks for the indepth summary. I got some watching to do do.

"I bitch a lot, but I'm having a good time, in any event."

This is basically my life motto at this point.

Reminds me of this meme.

@fortyseven @owl

On top of all that, modern Trek was not afraid of actually having diverse casting outside of race. I finally got to see myself represented in Adira, as a nonbinary person. The same for Gray as a trans person. I am desperately going to miss that kind of representation with whatever bullshit Ellison makes them produce.

@fortyseven

Wild, guess I have no interest in Project Hail Mary then.

@lockelyfox Eeh, I dunno. I wouldn't skip it over this. I mean it really IS a good movie. I'm sure big name directors of some great, famous films have dragged Trek (and Wars, and the rest) through the mud, too. Thankfully the film is the work of faaaar more than just him. ;)

@fortyseven SFA is actually quite entertaining... And actually a very good StarTrek in the end.

Those trashing it are just rightwing snowflakes, for whom SFA is supposedly 'too woke'...

@fortyseven

From what I can gather, Weir is into optimistic exploration and shiny tech, and doesn't care about social or societal themes.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/20/podcasts/andy-weir-hail-mary.html

Which imho is quite narrow and closeminded, disregarding a huge chunk of what makes Star Trek. 🤷‍♂️

Perhaps I'm wrong, and there's more to it. Hanging out at Critical Drinker isn't a good sign.

But I'm also just tired of being worked up by any bad take by dudes who didn't get past the "sacrificing lone male hero" trope

Andy Weir on Writing the Hit Book Behind the Movie ‘Project Hail Mary’

The author talked about adapting his best-selling novel for film, creating the beloved character Rocky and making complex science feel approachable.

The New York Times