Marco Arment17h ago

RE: https://mastodon.social/@lukaskubanek/116299581006179836

This is a total showstopper for any iOS apps using CloudKit.

Show threadPaul Haddad 17h ago
@marcoarment soft disagree, CK apps should be architected so that push notifications are a nice to have, not a requirement.
Show threadSören Gade
@paul I can also imagine that the reality of many apps is different
Mar 28 at 9:27pmIvory for iOS
Show threadStéphane Lizeray16h ago
@sense @paul Push notifications are a best effort service anyway, I tend to agree with Paul
Show threadPaul Haddad 16h ago
@slizeray @sense getting CloudKit “right" is probably impossible for anyone outside of Apple. So it’s both a developer bug, an Apple bug and a CloudKit design issue. Lots of “blame" to go around.
Show threadSören Gade16h ago

@paul @slizeray it is hard because the developers rely on the backend they have no control over.

Apple would need to provide some guidance or a fix.

Either way, working together so that the issues that are surfacing are solved would be most productive.

Show threadStéphane Lizeray16h ago
@paul @sense always the same issue, the documentation is pathetic
Show threadLukas Kubanek6h ago
@slizeray @sense @paul I also agree that apps shouldn’t rely on instant sync and should continue working in “offline” mode. However, with CKSyncEngine, you’re out of luck triggering the sync manually, as you’re handing control over to the system. The promise is that it just works. Until it doesn’t. It’s less of a black box than Core Data but still a black box…
Show threadStéphane Lizeray6h ago
@lukaskubanek @sense @paul yes you are totally right…