Miguel de Icaza ᯅ🍉Amanda Gelender, powerful:
doomsey@Migueldeicaza I am tired of people - not just Zionists, and not just Jews - doing horrible things in my name, and taking away part of my identity.
Dave Rahardja@Migueldeicaza This was indeed a powerful piece, but I disagree with it on some important points:
I think it’s vital to distinguish between anti-Zionist and Zionist Jews, because that’s how you build an anti-genocide movement. While “yes all Jews” (like “yes all men”) is a useful tool for enlightening members of a perpetrator class, it has to be followed by “but you can change that” for improvement to happen.
It’s inaccurate to say that *no* Jews are anti-Zionist; the author is proof of that. I’ve seen many videos that show Jews standing up against Zionism, and there are many here on the Fediverse. Why deny this fact?
Asking everyone in a colonizing class to leave a colony that’s more than a few generations old is intractable without causing more widespread suffering (and I’m saying this as a former resident of two former colonies). Reparations, yes. Expulsion? Probably a bad idea. I believe one can establish a more just system without first flushing out the population.
@drahardja we are on the same page. I think the essay is extreme because it needs to be extreme.
@Migueldeicaza I also think the points I wrote about above are not confined to Jews and Zionism; they apply to any class-based system of oppression: White supremacy, misogyny, caste-ism, aristocracy, you name it. Within any system of oppression there are *always* some number of—for lack of a better word—“traitors” within the oppressing class; those working to dismantle the system would do well to identify and recruit them, not deny their existence.