LLMs do not "democratize programming". A 4-year-old can learn to program. LLMs throw up stupid barriers by convincing you that you can't learn to program and you have to rely on whatever shit the bobot spits out. Every asshole that says that AI "democratizes" fucking anything is trying to scam you.
It's the same as AI "authors" and "artists". They don't want to make things. They want a get rich quick scheme, or the cachet of being an author or being an artist without actually ever having done anything. The hyperrealistic version of the Foucauldian author-function. Utterly horrific
@decay they want the benefits of appearing to have done work without the actual doing of the work, and i think there's more than a few words to describe that kind of person

@atax1a @decay while I think you're right on the whole, I think it is important to let this, at least sometimes, also be a conversation about how accessible some of these things are, mostly by virtue of the cost in time or money: editing of video music text etc, playing instruments, drawing and painting, etc.

Which is to say it is an even more egregious crime against humanity when this money could've been invested into arts programs, community centers, labor unions, etc.

@nickdumas @atax1a well yes. As always, the problem is capitalism per se

RE: https://infosec.exchange/@atax1a/115970686853439338

@nickdumas @decay with a note that the sweariness is not directed at you, but at the purveyors:

@decay @jwz imagine being too lazy to be an artist

@decay Barring any of the obvious discussions about ethics, labor displacement and weakening of worker power…

SaaS/PaaS tools controlled by multibillion dollar corporations and a handful of delusional investors, and are seats of centralized power that will rug pull you as soon as they have market dominance and have established sufficient barriers to entry to prevent competition are democratized?

How the fuck are any of these tools democratized any more than Adobe Creative Cloud? Or Microsoft Office?

these people are so exhausting.

@decay the only thing that has ever democratized programming is spreadsheets
@decay bottled water democratised water

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when "your" Code (Made from the AI) Throws an error ... YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO FIXIT

@moppi @decay It's a feature, not a bug. Dependence on the slop machine for maintenance.
@moppi @decay To be fair, human code likes doing that as well.
@decay it was only a few months into 2022 when the discourse moved from “democratization” to “those artists enjoyed undue cachet” and thats when I realized it was alway about correcting their scales away from us heathens
@decay LLMs are like gaving trainees at scale. You cannot trust them, you have to cross check their work, but you can scale up until the cross checking overwhelms you.
Real trainees cannot be scaled up, but they do learn and turn from trainee to junior to senior.
@decay this is very true. People who started learning coding with LLMs don't know how to write code manually. Because they never struggled and put in the time to internalize the syntax or the intuition about the program behavior. It's like reading exercise solutions instead of solving the exercises. This is not learning, it's just faking it.
@decay "LLMs democratize creativity, btw democracy doesn't work and we should fix it so only rich property owners can vote or hold office"

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Wait! You learn something: not to use your brain. Humanity is doomed.

@decay reformulate. What you write is false. I have made things with the help of LLMs that I would have otherwise simply not made at all. I can't code, an LLM can't code, but who's code runs after sifting through the vastness of the Internet after 30 seconds? Certainly not mine. Not the LLMs, either, but the necessary tweaks are minimal.
@decay the people who use LLMs don't care about programming, they care about the resulting software. So they would claim that it "democratizes creating software" or something.
@decay @ireneista I suspect that for significant portion of world population paying 20€ a month is simply impossible.
@tumdum @decay that's certainly true, too