Can you please hold a few fingers in front of your face?

No?

Bye.

@stux
Hey, that's Jim Browning!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Browning_(YouTuber)

I don't think he's on here but he has a big youtube channel going after scammers.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBNG0osIBAprVcZZ3ic84vw

Jim Browning (YouTuber) - Wikipedia

@stux so it's like ... a snapchat filter but AI generated?
@loganer @stux yup that's basically how deepfakes work! With enough tuning you can get a really believable result on a recorded video but live video is still really hard to consistently achieve since the machine learning models produce so many errors and you can't just edit around them or rerun it for different results
@loganer @stux snapchat filter is same technology. This is just used for scams.
@stux If asked that, I'd be so tempted to flip them the V's with both hands in front of my face
@stux it's not just the three fingers. The guy moves his head like a bobblehead would, his smile is unnatural and why does he grab that frame being sure to always look at the camera?

@ranx @stux The "head bobble" is a really common South Asian thing. Obviously it's possible for anyone to make that gesture, but it's reasonable to take it as a sign that the person is likely from that part of the world (or grew up in a culture from that part of the world).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head_bobble

Head bobble - Wikipedia

@ranx @stux
And what the hell is that potted plant? It looks like kelp.
@ranx @stux he's also really careful to not have the frame overlap his face too. someone naturally holding up that big of an object to show a camera wouldn't be holding it that low either.

@stux Perhaps a stupid question, but why is it hard for an AI generated "person" to do that?

(And if this now gets widespread, will they quickly learn to do it and then you have to start asking them to do something else...?)

@tml @stux Because it's taking a live video and superimposing a different face. If the face becomes obscured, it becomes difficult for the "AI" to do so. Partially obscuring the face with anything would cause the same difficulty.
@me @stux @tml He’s trying to always look directly at the camera, barely any movement apart from the „head bobble“, but if you look at the guy‘s forehead you can see that these slight movements make a strain of hair grow and disappear. The headphones obscure the ears which would probably look eerie. In a live video call that‘s hard to spot, but the hand in front of the face would make that guy look like something from a horror movie.

@tml @stux Because AI suck at human poses.

Human gestures often involve nuanced hand movements, and the models aren't necessarily that well trained.

(or they have too many fingers)

@tml @stux it is hard to do. Deep fakes work with certain conditions and only. Also there were very tell tell signs on first glance as well.
It works when you have limited interaction scammer has predicted.
@stux Oh, that one seems currently better than asking for a little help in calculating the result of something like 87.296 divided by 27.416 ;)

@stux I know Jim Browning is a pretty famous #scam baiter but on the other hand I sympathize with a brown person thinking that being white will increase their chances of getting a #job. I don't know if that's the case here but I know there are hard working brown skin people just trying everything they can to earn money. This is a symptom of #WhiteSupremacy in an extremely unfair world.

P.S. this video is funny AF.

@stux this is so cool. Learned something new!
@stux Brother's neck is so stiff, the filter he is using is so bad it will stop working if the moves too much, when he grabs the thing in the wall he makes an effort to keep looking at the camera instead of the wall

@stux What if this knowledge becomes widespread enough that holding three fingers in front of your face becomes a human greeting?

Like the way lifting a helmet’s visor became a salute?

@stux This is funny (Man, the eyes) and terrifying at the same time.
#no_ai_bullshit