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evacideIf you are traveling to or through Hong Kong, here is a new thing to consider when you are deciding whether or not to take your devices with you and how you should set them up.
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Stephen Collins@evacide the absolute irony of the US bitching about this.
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Glitzersachen
Dubi is here 
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PassengerThis is also the law in the UK and has been for a while now; it is very selectively enforced but cops are getting more insistent about it under the current regime.
(The relevant law is section 49 of the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act 2000. This was sold to the public as necessary for serious counterterrorism and only to be used in extreme cases.)
It's clearly an extreme case if you got passwords on your devices or --- God forbid --- even encryption.
Who do you think you are? A spy agency? Nah, likely only an "extreme case" (of what, we'll find out later, after having had a look at your laptop and mobile).
True story: a compa was once asked for his phone password at a demo (he had a demo phone on him.) When he asked for a court order, as is theoretically his legal right, the cop threatened to arrest him for theft, on the grounds that this "proved" that the phone wasn't his.
D Ingram@evacide State interference with devices is so bad globally that my employer now bans taking laptops overseas. Any traveller requiring a laptop gets a clean 'burner' machine.
Michael T Babcock@evacide see also America.
solo@evacide are there any good plausible deniability encryption projects or is it still just veracrypt?
And now that you have posted _in public_ that you are thinking about deniable encryption, they'll hit you with a wrench until you give them a working password to a deniably encrypted container. If you can't give such a password, it seems likely you're only still denying, so the effort would continue.
Better now to always have such a container somewhere in unused disk space, otherwise you'll never leave the rubber hose decryption cellar.
@glitzersachen @evacide if the feds are already on to me, then I'm fucked. I'm not going to china in the near future, so that's not a concern.
this is more for others.
@evacide Please remind me not to travel via Hong Kong.
tootbrute@Olle_Gladso @evacide also china cause they are the same
@tootbrute @Olle_Gladso @evacide
And not via the US. The globe is slowly becoming one huge no-go zone for travel.
Though that dovetails nicely with the idea that we shouldn't fly so much anyway, since it's bad for the climate.
@glitzersachen @Olle_Gladso @evacide when travelling I set the GrapheneOS to "password". Will wipe my phone if I type that in. 🤣
FurballsNHairballs@evacide
Well shit..more fascist censorship and intrusions
Well shit..more fascist censorship and intrusions
oscarfalconIt's almost like they DON'T want people to travel so as to better manipulate the "populus".
BussphometWell
I never planned on going to winnie the pooh land anyway
Because if anyone demanded that I would break their fingers one at a time
klausfiend@evacide I wonder if there's a market for mobile data restoration: you rent a burner, restore from the cloud, wipe and return the device when you leave. Likely a nightmare of liability the feds would stomp on almost immediately because reasons.
Gareth Kitchen@evacide
Indeed and for sure. But that's somewhat misleading and poor advice from the US Govt.
If you transit a country the state of local law counts for little.
Remember Miranda the journalist? Detained while transiting the UK while carrying encrypted files relating to Snowden. UK Govt. seized his device and interrogated him.
Transiting an authoritarian country isn't smart!
Indeed and for sure. But that's somewhat misleading and poor advice from the US Govt.
If you transit a country the state of local law counts for little.
Remember Miranda the journalist? Detained while transiting the UK while carrying encrypted files relating to Snowden. UK Govt. seized his device and interrogated him.
Transiting an authoritarian country isn't smart!
🇨🇦 Maverick ✊🇲🇲🇺🇦🇻🇪🇬🇱@evacide I was just looking at flights that transit through HK. When it comes time to book, I won’t book those.
The problem is, what countries actually support & protect the individual’s fundamental right to privacy? As far as I can tell, most western democracies have now become authoritarian. Perhaps a couple still left in continental Europe. I have been avoiding 🇨🇳 and 🇺🇸 for years. Even 🇨🇦 has no problem violating your rights (& putting you & their violations on TV to intimidate the masses)
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