I completely understand the position of people who don't want to use LLMs or consume any content produced with LLMs. I do not understand the position of "NO ONE should use LLMs at all" because how are you planning to make that happen? no one should be *forced* to use them, but plenty of people are using them now. it's not something you can wish away or achieve via moral condemnation.
i just want to know what the the theory of change is, beyond being really angry at the whole thing

@lzg

Have you ever played tennis, bouncing the ball against a wall? The wall will always return the ball according to the rules of physics.

The LLM is the wall. It's not about right or wrong, accurate or inaccurate, truth or lies. It is only a mirror.

Create the mirror with crap data. The Big Machines will index it all, grind it up like weisswurst, down to the probability of the next word in a list. Everything else is beside the point, there is math to support what's going on, endless MULT instructions on millions of processors, munching away on a corpus.

But what if we populated it with good data, trustworthy data? The models would be smaller, we might do it with L-Systems. Ethics could thus be directly implied.

@tuban_muzuru @lzg

Mirrors are predictable and we can explain how they work. We know why we get the reflections we see.

LLMs are the opposite.

@jamesbritt @lzg

You're wrong. None of the math is on your side.

@jamesbritt @lzg

I really do think people should have to pass a test showing they understand linear algebra and the rudiments of indexing a corpus.

Can't pass the test? None of this machine learning for you.

@jamesbritt @lzg

I might add, it's truly shameful, these Chicken Littles running around telling us AI is gonna Take Yer Jerbs. The same idiots have been saying that since the PC surpassed the typewriter. Don't be a Chicken Little. Take some math courses.

@tuban_muzuru @jamesbritt @lzg yeah llms can be run deterministically and perhaps the only thing questionably not deterministic in the universe is quantum effects.
Who cares. Learning linear algebra doesn't solve the problem.
@tuban_muzuru @jamesbritt @lzg I know ML researchers who truly believe that once they finish replacing all of us and themselves, that we will have UBI and nobody will have to work anymore.
They know linear algebra, but look how naive they are.
Knowing linear algebra doesnt solve the problem.