lenazun14h ago
I completely understand the position of people who don't want to use LLMs or consume any content produced with LLMs. I do not understand the position of "NO ONE should use LLMs at all" because how are you planning to make that happen? no one should be *forced* to use them, but plenty of people are using them now. it's not something you can wish away or achieve via moral condemnation.
Show threadNelson14h ago

@lzg No one should use fossil fuels. How are we going to make that happen? It's not going well, I'll admit, but it's actually relatively straightforward, it's just there are these shitty rich people pushing fossil fuels and destroying democracy to do it.

I leave the parallels as an exercise for the reader.

Show threadlenazun14h ago
@skyfaller Right but we're not (I hope) out there yelling at individual people who use cars "you're destroying the fucking world" as our only means of activism. there's research, there's decarbonization goals, there's clean energy development, idk. other things.
Show threadKen Milmore
@lzg @skyfaller One of the differences is that the oil-based economy has been well established for over a century, so it is something we have to wind down. But AI economy is very early in the process of being constructed: In the UK in the face of an energy crisis there are proposals to double our national electricity consumption to support data centres. That's insane. So it is about preventing these things before they happen or become too embedded to remove easily, as is the case with oil now.
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